Is Thunderbird Mail safe to use privacywise?
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If you don't trust the source, how is a fork built from the same source going to help?
It's not really not trusting Mozilla but more what they do to their products, telemetry and else
The same source with patches if you prefer that
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If you don't trust the source, how is a fork built from the same source going to help?
You think they only renamed it?
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You think they only renamed it?
I mean if the core is from them and you can't confidently say that the fork creator has reviewed and continues to review every piece of the code before they merge, you're still trusting Mozilla.
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I mean if the core is from them and you can't confidently say that the fork creator has reviewed and continues to review every piece of the code before they merge, you're still trusting Mozilla.
We are not banned from doing that. If Mozilla was really hiding something it would not be libre software.
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I have 2 concerns:
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I recently read the firefox Terms Of Use paragraph that people are posting which doesn't sound nice in terms of privacy.
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Back when Mozilla had their own Mastodon instance called mozilla.social, every time I signed in I would be blasted with trackers according to uBlock Origin.
I'm no expert in these things and I want to ask if anyone recommends that I switch away from Thunderbird Mail and if so, which open source email client? Thanks in advance.
What else is there to use on my Samsung galaxy s23 ultra?
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I have 2 concerns:
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I recently read the firefox Terms Of Use paragraph that people are posting which doesn't sound nice in terms of privacy.
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Back when Mozilla had their own Mastodon instance called mozilla.social, every time I signed in I would be blasted with trackers according to uBlock Origin.
I'm no expert in these things and I want to ask if anyone recommends that I switch away from Thunderbird Mail and if so, which open source email client? Thanks in advance.
Mozilla's telemetry change in Thunderbird Android makes me say "find a different client."
Generally, you should pick and choose your battles. Mozilla on the whole isn't a company whose software I trust anymore.
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Yeah I'm just in the process of moving to Evolution from TBird on my desktops for this reason. Not sure what to use now Moz bought K9
FairEmail has a good reputation.
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FairEmail has a good reputation.
Awesome. I'll take a look, thanks
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Yes, fully open source. If you don't trust Mozilla, use a fork like Betterbird.
Does Betterbird even remove telemetry from Thunderbird? From my knowledge they only add a few Bugfixes and recompile the binary. Never heard them talking about telemetry, tracking etc. Does anybody know?
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Mozilla's telemetry change in Thunderbird Android makes me say "find a different client."
Generally, you should pick and choose your battles. Mozilla on the whole isn't a company whose software I trust anymore.
This is normal usage stats. Every app has that. You can opt out and you get asked when launching the app the first time. This isn't that bad.
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This is normal usage stats. Every app has that. You can opt out and you get asked when launching the app the first time. This isn't that bad.
Stop gaslighting me.
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Does Betterbird even remove telemetry from Thunderbird? From my knowledge they only add a few Bugfixes and recompile the binary. Never heard them talking about telemetry, tracking etc. Does anybody know?
This section of their website says no telemetry reports are submitted:
https://www.betterbird.eu/legal/index.html?ref=news.itsfoss.com -
FairEmail has a good reputation.
This!! FairEmail is amazing!
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Yeah I'm just in the process of moving to Evolution from TBird on my desktops for this reason. Not sure what to use now Moz bought K9
I keep having to log in on Evolution. If I knew what I was doing I would stay on it but for now I'm on Betterbird.
FairEmail is a good switch for Android.
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This doesn’t bode well at all: https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/about/
Thunderbird operates in a separate, for-profit subsidiary of the Mozilla Foundation.
A free mail client from a for-profit company? What’s the revenue model? Sounds like I must the product somehow.
The Thunderbird for-profit entity, MZLA Technologies Corporation, is distinct from the Firefox for-profit entity, Mozilla Corporation, and both are wholly owned by the non-profit entity, Mozilla Foundation.
MZLA makes money off of user donations, you can see the public stats
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Stop gaslighting me.
Did you even read what you linked?
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Without advertising money and alternate revenue streams there would be no Mozilla
What is the point of using anything Mozilla if it's just going to do the same shit as the services we keep trying to avoid, only worse?
Mozilla has fallen, it is no longer focused on privacy. I get that companies need money to operate, but there are alternatives to just poking holes to be profitable (while calling yourself "not-for-profit").
Everything under the Mozilla umbrella is questionable, at best.
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What is the point of using anything Mozilla if it's just going to do the same shit as the services we keep trying to avoid, only worse?
Mozilla has fallen, it is no longer focused on privacy. I get that companies need money to operate, but there are alternatives to just poking holes to be profitable (while calling yourself "not-for-profit").
Everything under the Mozilla umbrella is questionable, at best.
Meanwhile chrome uploads a log of everything you do to google, and ad blockers don't work anymore
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Meanwhile chrome uploads a log of everything you do to google, and ad blockers don't work anymore
You're absolutely right. Chrome is the worst offender, no question about that.
I'm guessing that the requirements for a PR job with Mozilla say "removed people preferred".
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