Does DeepSeek Censor Its AI Answers? On These Sensitive Topics, Yes.
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lorips@lemmy.worldreplied to Guest 29 days ago last edited by
R1-32B hasn't been added to Ollama yet, the model I use is Deepseek v2, but as they're both licensed under MIT I'd assume they behave similarly. I haven't tried out OpenAI o1 or Claude yet as I'm only running models locally.
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bytejunk@lemmy.worldreplied to Guest 29 days ago last edited by
I haven't looked into running any if these models myself so I'm not too informed, but isn't the censorship highly dependent on the training data? I assume they didn't release theirs.
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aboubenadhem@lemmy.worldreplied to Guest 29 days ago last edited by
Video of censored answers show R1 beginning to give a valid answer, then deleting the answer and saying the question is outside its scope. That suggests the censorship isn’t in the training data but in some post-processing filter.
And even if the censorship were at the training level, the whole buzz about R1 is how cheap it is to train.
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tyler@programming.devreplied to Guest 29 days ago last edited by
Hmm I’m using 32b from ollama, both on windows and Mac.
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banshee@lemmy.worldreplied to Guest 28 days ago last edited by
Interesting. I wonder if model distillation affected censoring in R1.
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psmgx@lemmy.worldreplied to Guest 28 days ago last edited by
I thought this was a big deal because it's Open Source -- is it not possible to see what is causing these blocks and censorings?
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imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.worksreplied to Guest 28 days ago last edited by
I'm still hazy on how open source it really is. Even if you ask it, it will tell you v3 is, and I quote "not open source". There is a github repository so there is some code available, but I get the sense that open-source is being used as a bit of a teaser here and that for-profit licensing is likely where this is headed.
Even if the code was fully available, I suspect it could take weeks to find the censorship bits. -
lorips@lemmy.worldreplied to Guest 28 days ago last edited by
Ah, I just found it.
Alpaca is just being weird again.
(I'm presently typing this while attempting to look over the head of my cat) -
triflingtoad@sh.itjust.worksreplied to Guest 28 days ago last edited by
beginning to give a valid answer, then deleting the answer
If it IS open source someone could undo this, but I assume its more difficult than a single on/off button. That along with it being selfhostable, it might be pretty good.
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lorips@lemmy.worldreplied to Guest 28 days ago last edited by
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