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    The buggy wasn't driven by Trump, but is thought to be his "getaway vehicle" should anyone open fire on the course. The black, obviously armored vehicle followed Trump around as he played golf, with many experts noting that it bore similarities to "The Beast" — Trump's protective vehicle stateside.

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    A goddamned armored golf cart.

    That sets a new personal record of my 'most out of touch, elitist thing someone can have or do'.

    ...

    Well, Scotland basically did invent sniping, so it does make sense that a man with a tiny penis fragile ego, who's been targeted by at least two snipers, would want some protection on a series of giant, open fields...

    ... at least it isn't painted gold.

    smdh

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      Golf force one... 🤮

      Here's hoping everyone gets a hole in one on this golf day?

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      'Bogey Actual'

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      • skullgrid@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

        And the family curse continues

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        almost like who raises kids and how they're raised matters and resisting fascism starts with nurturing within children empathy

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          I thought people in scotland had a problem with everyone? Including the scots.

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          Damn Scots! They ruined Scotland!

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          • C [email protected]

            The buggy wasn't driven by Trump, but is thought to be his "getaway vehicle" should anyone open fire on the course. The black, obviously armored vehicle followed Trump around as he played golf, with many experts noting that it bore similarities to "The Beast" — Trump's protective vehicle stateside.

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            Hahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah, big strong leader y'all got there.

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              His get away cart.

              I'm sorry, but if someone opens fire on Taco in chief and isn't a Maga apologist or false flag, they're going to make those shots count. It would buy him time if he lucked out, but not much

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              Username checks out

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              • tal@lemmy.todayT [email protected]

                That's probably less armor than he has around him in the official limo when he's here.

                I'd guess that there are more people with anti-materiel rifles over here.

                EDIT: Oh, according to the article, that's just some sort of evacuation vehicle for if he does come under attack. Apparently he's in a regular golf cart.

                IIRC he wasn't in an armored vehicle when we had that sniper try to take him out when he was golfing here, so maybe the amount of armor is none in both cases.

                EDIT2: I don't know who the last President is where we haven't had at least one known incident where someone, usually us, tried to kill him. Probably quite a few years back.

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                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_assassination_attempts_and_plots

                Going off a quick skim of that list:

                • Trump: 11 incidents so far, with him being hit in the ear at one point.

                • Biden: 2

                • Obama: 11

                • Bush Jr: 2

                • Clinton: 5

                • Bush Sr: 1

                • Reagan: Only 1, though in that incident he was hit by a riccochet and the bullet stopped just short of his heart.

                • Carter doesn't have any incidents, so I guess the last time we elected someone and then didn't try to kill them was the 1970s. Though this sounds kind of sketchy, and I dunno if maybe it should count as an attempt:

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Lee_Harvey

                EDIT3: https://www.reddit.com/r/greenberets/comments/v28lsk/what_is_the_average_casualty_rate_as_a_green_beret/

                What is the average casualty rate as a green beret?

                17 combat deaths per year divided by 7,000 active green berets per year is a fatality rate of approximately 0.24% per year

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_assassination_attempts_and_plots

                Four sitting U.S. presidents have been killed: Abraham Lincoln (1865), James A. Garfield (1881), William McKinley (1901), and John F. Kennedy (1963).

                From 1789 to 2025, we've had 236 years as a country led by a President, so about 1.70% annual mortality rate for Presidents. Going by those numbers, it's a little more than seven times as lethal to be President as to be Army special forces.

                EDIT4: Though the Netherlands has a higher rate of cannibalism of their national leaders.

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                Way less. That limo is up armored as close to a tank as you could possibly get.

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                • tal@lemmy.todayT [email protected]

                  That's probably less armor than he has around him in the official limo when he's here.

                  I'd guess that there are more people with anti-materiel rifles over here.

                  EDIT: Oh, according to the article, that's just some sort of evacuation vehicle for if he does come under attack. Apparently he's in a regular golf cart.

                  IIRC he wasn't in an armored vehicle when we had that sniper try to take him out when he was golfing here, so maybe the amount of armor is none in both cases.

                  EDIT2: I don't know who the last President is where we haven't had at least one known incident where someone, usually us, tried to kill him. Probably quite a few years back.

                  kagis

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_assassination_attempts_and_plots

                  Going off a quick skim of that list:

                  • Trump: 11 incidents so far, with him being hit in the ear at one point.

                  • Biden: 2

                  • Obama: 11

                  • Bush Jr: 2

                  • Clinton: 5

                  • Bush Sr: 1

                  • Reagan: Only 1, though in that incident he was hit by a riccochet and the bullet stopped just short of his heart.

                  • Carter doesn't have any incidents, so I guess the last time we elected someone and then didn't try to kill them was the 1970s. Though this sounds kind of sketchy, and I dunno if maybe it should count as an attempt:

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Lee_Harvey

                  EDIT3: https://www.reddit.com/r/greenberets/comments/v28lsk/what_is_the_average_casualty_rate_as_a_green_beret/

                  What is the average casualty rate as a green beret?

                  17 combat deaths per year divided by 7,000 active green berets per year is a fatality rate of approximately 0.24% per year

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_assassination_attempts_and_plots

                  Four sitting U.S. presidents have been killed: Abraham Lincoln (1865), James A. Garfield (1881), William McKinley (1901), and John F. Kennedy (1963).

                  From 1789 to 2025, we've had 236 years as a country led by a President, so about 1.70% annual mortality rate for Presidents. Going by those numbers, it's a little more than seven times as lethal to be President as to be Army special forces.

                  EDIT4: Though the Netherlands has a higher rate of cannibalism of their national leaders.

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                  ...Lee Harvey?

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                    The Scots sure are a contentious people...

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                    ...YOU'VE JUST MADE AN ENEMY FOR LIFE

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                      ...Lee Harvey?

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                      Going by the article, it's just a freak coincidence.

                      The names "Lee Harvey" and "Osvaldo" (Osvaldo is the Spanish equivalent to "Oswald") drew comparisons to Lee Harvey Oswald, who was suspected of having assassinated President John F. Kennedy. This led some to believe that the incident was set up to scare Carter into submission.[7][8]

                      EDIT: To be clear, I haven't heard about that incident prior to this, haven't ever read about Carter-era stuff, so I only know what's in that article. shrugs Maybe the guy changed his name prior to the incident, maybe they only reported claimed names, dunno.

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                      • C [email protected]

                        The buggy wasn't driven by Trump, but is thought to be his "getaway vehicle" should anyone open fire on the course. The black, obviously armored vehicle followed Trump around as he played golf, with many experts noting that it bore similarities to "The Beast" — Trump's protective vehicle stateside.

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                        Whatever. Epstein.

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                          Way less. That limo is up armored as close to a tank as you could possibly get.

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                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_state_car_(United_States)

                          The 2009 presidential state car model had night vision optics, a tear gas cannon, onboard oxygen tanks, an armored fuel tank filled with foam to prevent explosion, and pump-action shotguns.[1][26] Whether it was[29] or was not armed with rocket-propelled grenades,[26] the car featured eight-inch (200 mm) doors.[10]

                          In addition to defensive measures designed to protect the president, this state car has stores of blood in the president's type for medical emergencies. The car is hermetically sealed against chemical attacks, and features run-flat tires, night-vision devices, smoke screens, and oil slicks as defensive measures against attackers. NBC reported that the car features armor made of aluminum, ceramic, and steel; the exterior walls have a thickness of eight inches (200 mm), the windows are multi-layered and five inches (130 mm) thick, and each door[32]—believed to be one foot (0.30 m) thick[37] and weigh as much as those on a Boeing 757—can electrify its handles to deter entry.[32]

                          https://spyscape.com/article/7-top-secrets-about-the-beast-presidential-limo

                          There are at least two identical Beasts with matching registration plates in every motorcade so attackers can’t be 100% certain which vehicle contains the president and which is the decoy. During President Joe Biden’s inauguration, there were actually seven Beasts deployed in the mother of all motorcades.

                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret_Service_Counter_Assault_Team

                          "Hawkeye" is the designation for a CAT assigned to the president, followed by the president's Secret Service code name

                          CAT operates both as part of motorcades and at fixed sites. In the event a VIP, the VIP's vehicle, or a protected site is attacked by multiple assailants, CAT is responsible for engaging and diverting the attackers, thereby buying the close protection shift time to evacuate the dignitary to a safe area.[9]

                          Hawkeye, when operating as part of a U.S. president's motorcade, travels in a vehicle several car lengths behind the presidential state car.[11]

                          A pop-up Gatling gun that comes out of a roof turret on one of the support vehicles:

                          https://www.guns.com/news/2011/07/16/the-dillon-m134d-gatling-gun-the-secret-services-secret-weapon

                          The Dillon M134D Gatling Gun: The Presidential Motorcade's Secret Weapon

                          No doubt other stuff that isn't made public.

                          They have closed airspace around him and they have fighter jets that will come investigate aircraft getting close.

                          https://www.faa.gov/newsroom/restricted-airspace-0

                          In the case of Presidential movement, the TFR is usually comprised of an outer ring (usually 30 nautical miles, but sometimes slightly more or less) and one or more inner rings (usually 10 nautical miles, but sometimes 8, 9, or 10 nautical miles). The dimensions and, even the shape, of the rings are sometimes altered to suit specific needs. For example, some TFRs are structured so that the outer ring consists of the lateral limits of a particular airport’s Class B airspace, or are created with cut-outs, as noted later in this resource.

                          I wouldn't be terribly surprised if, especially in this era of easy accessibility to drones, if they're also carrying some sort of surface-to-air weaponry, though I don't think I've ever read anything about it. They have electronic warfare vehicles in the convoy, though as can be seen in Ukraine, where Russia and Ukraine are both using drones that unspool fiber optic cable behind them as they fly to defeat jamming, jamming is not, alone, a full counter to drones.

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                            Whatever. Epstein.

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                            FORGET EPSTEIN BRO! PLEASE BRO!! PLEASE FORGET EPSTEIN!!!

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                            • C [email protected]

                              The buggy wasn't driven by Trump, but is thought to be his "getaway vehicle" should anyone open fire on the course. The black, obviously armored vehicle followed Trump around as he played golf, with many experts noting that it bore similarities to "The Beast" — Trump's protective vehicle stateside.

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                              Punk bitch. Pedo rapist.

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                                Hahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah, big strong leader y'all got there.

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                                The ones who asked for him are the ones who don't care.

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                                  The buggy wasn't driven by Trump, but is thought to be his "getaway vehicle" should anyone open fire on the course. The black, obviously armored vehicle followed Trump around as he played golf, with many experts noting that it bore similarities to "The Beast" — Trump's protective vehicle stateside.

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                                  Sounds like the Scottish want to see the files too.

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                                    That thing is weak, The Beast is badass.

                                    Those doors look like salvage from a circa 2002 Humvee

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                                    Before we had to use improvised armor upgrades.

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                                      Before we had to use improvised armor upgrades.

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                                      That stupid flak jacket was just a seat cushion. Better than the actual cushion.

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                                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_state_car_(United_States)

                                        The 2009 presidential state car model had night vision optics, a tear gas cannon, onboard oxygen tanks, an armored fuel tank filled with foam to prevent explosion, and pump-action shotguns.[1][26] Whether it was[29] or was not armed with rocket-propelled grenades,[26] the car featured eight-inch (200 mm) doors.[10]

                                        In addition to defensive measures designed to protect the president, this state car has stores of blood in the president's type for medical emergencies. The car is hermetically sealed against chemical attacks, and features run-flat tires, night-vision devices, smoke screens, and oil slicks as defensive measures against attackers. NBC reported that the car features armor made of aluminum, ceramic, and steel; the exterior walls have a thickness of eight inches (200 mm), the windows are multi-layered and five inches (130 mm) thick, and each door[32]—believed to be one foot (0.30 m) thick[37] and weigh as much as those on a Boeing 757—can electrify its handles to deter entry.[32]

                                        https://spyscape.com/article/7-top-secrets-about-the-beast-presidential-limo

                                        There are at least two identical Beasts with matching registration plates in every motorcade so attackers can’t be 100% certain which vehicle contains the president and which is the decoy. During President Joe Biden’s inauguration, there were actually seven Beasts deployed in the mother of all motorcades.

                                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret_Service_Counter_Assault_Team

                                        "Hawkeye" is the designation for a CAT assigned to the president, followed by the president's Secret Service code name

                                        CAT operates both as part of motorcades and at fixed sites. In the event a VIP, the VIP's vehicle, or a protected site is attacked by multiple assailants, CAT is responsible for engaging and diverting the attackers, thereby buying the close protection shift time to evacuate the dignitary to a safe area.[9]

                                        Hawkeye, when operating as part of a U.S. president's motorcade, travels in a vehicle several car lengths behind the presidential state car.[11]

                                        A pop-up Gatling gun that comes out of a roof turret on one of the support vehicles:

                                        https://www.guns.com/news/2011/07/16/the-dillon-m134d-gatling-gun-the-secret-services-secret-weapon

                                        The Dillon M134D Gatling Gun: The Presidential Motorcade's Secret Weapon

                                        No doubt other stuff that isn't made public.

                                        They have closed airspace around him and they have fighter jets that will come investigate aircraft getting close.

                                        https://www.faa.gov/newsroom/restricted-airspace-0

                                        In the case of Presidential movement, the TFR is usually comprised of an outer ring (usually 30 nautical miles, but sometimes slightly more or less) and one or more inner rings (usually 10 nautical miles, but sometimes 8, 9, or 10 nautical miles). The dimensions and, even the shape, of the rings are sometimes altered to suit specific needs. For example, some TFRs are structured so that the outer ring consists of the lateral limits of a particular airport’s Class B airspace, or are created with cut-outs, as noted later in this resource.

                                        I wouldn't be terribly surprised if, especially in this era of easy accessibility to drones, if they're also carrying some sort of surface-to-air weaponry, though I don't think I've ever read anything about it. They have electronic warfare vehicles in the convoy, though as can be seen in Ukraine, where Russia and Ukraine are both using drones that unspool fiber optic cable behind them as they fly to defeat jamming, jamming is not, alone, a full counter to drones.

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                                        Pretty sure it has flares as well. They put everything they've got into it.

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                                          That stupid flak jacket was just a seat cushion. Better than the actual cushion.

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                                          Yeah, if you didn't have plates, you didn't have anything. The later shoulder pads and crotch "protector" did nothing but add weight.

                                          Edit: also, being tall, it was more of a pelvis protector than crotch.

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