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Trump takes no chances in armored golf buggy as protesters storm streets across Scotland

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  • P [email protected]

    Pretty sure it has flares as well. They put everything they've got into it.

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    Air Force One does. I dunno about the ground motorcade, though.

    And I'm sure that the E-4 does too.

    kagis

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_E-4

    The Boeing E-4 Advanced Airborne Command Post (AACP), the current "Nightwatch" aircraft,[2] is a series of strategic command and control military aircraft operated by the United States Air Force (USAF). The E-4 series are specially modified from the Boeing 747-200B for the National Emergency Airborne Command Post (NEACP) program.[3]

    The E-4 serves as a survivable mobile command post for the National Command Authority, namely the President of the United States, the Secretary of Defense, and successors. The four E-4s are operated by the 1st Airborne Command and Control Squadron of the 595th Command and Control Group located at Offutt Air Force Base, near Omaha, Nebraska. An E-4 when in action is denoted a "National Airborne Operations Center" (NAOC) and has been nicknamed the "Doomsday plane".[4]

    When the President travels outside of North America using a VC-25A as Air Force One, an E-4B will deploy to a second airport in the vicinity of the President's destination, to be readily available in the event of a world crisis or an emergency that renders the VC-25A unusable.[citation needed] When President Barack Obama visited Honolulu, Hawaii, an E-4B was often stationed 200 miles away at Hilo International Airport on Hawaii Island.[28][29]

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      If your president needs an armoured golf buggy when visiting an allied country, you may want to rethink your choice of president.

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      Ya. But Gaza...

      All I have to say is I hope those people are happy. And proud. And satisfied.

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        The buggy wasn't driven by Trump, but is thought to be his "getaway vehicle" should anyone open fire on the course. The black, obviously armored vehicle followed Trump around as he played golf, with many experts noting that it bore similarities to "The Beast" — Trump's protective vehicle stateside.

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        Is he afraid someone is gonna start chucking all the Epstein files at him?

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        • P [email protected]

          The ones who asked for him are the ones who don't care.

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          The ones who didn't ask for him cared, but not for their own country.

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            The buggy wasn't driven by Trump, but is thought to be his "getaway vehicle" should anyone open fire on the course. The black, obviously armored vehicle followed Trump around as he played golf, with many experts noting that it bore similarities to "The Beast" — Trump's protective vehicle stateside.

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            The Scots will just need some bigger bullets.

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              The buggy wasn't driven by Trump, but is thought to be his "getaway vehicle" should anyone open fire on the course. The black, obviously armored vehicle followed Trump around as he played golf, with many experts noting that it bore similarities to "The Beast" — Trump's protective vehicle stateside.

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              The Mirror is a shit rag, fuck that newspaper.

              But ya.

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                The buggy wasn't driven by Trump, but is thought to be his "getaway vehicle" should anyone open fire on the course. The black, obviously armored vehicle followed Trump around as he played golf, with many experts noting that it bore similarities to "The Beast" — Trump's protective vehicle stateside.

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                I like how about 70 times a round he needs to leave the air conditioned comfort and stand verrry still, outside, for a few minutes at a time. That's more a risk than yahoos with placards will ever pose.

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                • obinice@lemmy.worldO [email protected]

                  The Mirror is a shit rag, fuck that newspaper.

                  But ya.

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                  The Mirror is the closest thing remaining to a left wing tabloid in the UK.

                  A good one? No.

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                  • tal@lemmy.todayT [email protected]

                    That's probably less armor than he has around him in the official limo when he's here.

                    I'd guess that there are more people with anti-materiel rifles over here.

                    EDIT: Oh, according to the article, that's just some sort of evacuation vehicle for if he does come under attack. Apparently he's in a regular golf cart.

                    IIRC he wasn't in an armored vehicle when we had that sniper try to take him out when he was golfing here, so maybe the amount of armor is none in both cases.

                    EDIT2: I don't know who the last President is where we haven't had at least one known incident where someone, usually us, tried to kill him. Probably quite a few years back.

                    kagis

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_assassination_attempts_and_plots

                    Going off a quick skim of that list:

                    • Trump: 11 incidents so far, with him being hit in the ear at one point.

                    • Biden: 2

                    • Obama: 11

                    • Bush Jr: 2

                    • Clinton: 5

                    • Bush Sr: 1

                    • Reagan: Only 1, though in that incident he was hit by a riccochet and the bullet stopped just short of his heart.

                    • Carter doesn't have any incidents, so I guess the last time we elected someone and then didn't try to kill them was the 1970s. Though this sounds kind of sketchy, and I dunno if maybe it should count as an attempt:

                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Lee_Harvey

                    EDIT3: https://www.reddit.com/r/greenberets/comments/v28lsk/what_is_the_average_casualty_rate_as_a_green_beret/

                    What is the average casualty rate as a green beret?

                    17 combat deaths per year divided by 7,000 active green berets per year is a fatality rate of approximately 0.24% per year

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_assassination_attempts_and_plots

                    Four sitting U.S. presidents have been killed: Abraham Lincoln (1865), James A. Garfield (1881), William McKinley (1901), and John F. Kennedy (1963).

                    From 1789 to 2025, we've had 236 years as a country led by a President, so about 1.70% annual mortality rate for Presidents. Going by those numbers, it's a little more than seven times as lethal to be President as to be Army special forces.

                    EDIT4: Though the Netherlands has a higher rate of cannibalism of their national leaders.

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                    Wtf, why is it always Harvey's?!? Tsk, tsk, give us a bad name...

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                      FORGET EPSTEIN BRO! PLEASE BRO!! PLEASE FORGET EPSTEIN!!!

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                      Epstein? I don't know him. I've never met him.

                      picture of epstein and trump together

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                        The buggy wasn't driven by Trump, but is thought to be his "getaway vehicle" should anyone open fire on the course. The black, obviously armored vehicle followed Trump around as he played golf, with many experts noting that it bore similarities to "The Beast" — Trump's protective vehicle stateside.

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                        In other news: GTA VI release delayed, Rockstar says it needs more time to incorporate new ideas from reality, ensuring the game stays relevant with the current day and age. /s

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                          If your president needs an armoured golf buggy when visiting an allied country, you may want to rethink your choice of president.

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                          They have to hide in their own country behind bullet proof cars and windows. In developed countries the equivalent of the president takes the bike or train to work.

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                            Ya. But Gaza...

                            All I have to say is I hope those people are happy. And proud. And satisfied.

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                            Many of us are none of these things.

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                              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_state_car_(United_States)

                              The 2009 presidential state car model had night vision optics, a tear gas cannon, onboard oxygen tanks, an armored fuel tank filled with foam to prevent explosion, and pump-action shotguns.[1][26] Whether it was[29] or was not armed with rocket-propelled grenades,[26] the car featured eight-inch (200 mm) doors.[10]

                              In addition to defensive measures designed to protect the president, this state car has stores of blood in the president's type for medical emergencies. The car is hermetically sealed against chemical attacks, and features run-flat tires, night-vision devices, smoke screens, and oil slicks as defensive measures against attackers. NBC reported that the car features armor made of aluminum, ceramic, and steel; the exterior walls have a thickness of eight inches (200 mm), the windows are multi-layered and five inches (130 mm) thick, and each door[32]—believed to be one foot (0.30 m) thick[37] and weigh as much as those on a Boeing 757—can electrify its handles to deter entry.[32]

                              https://spyscape.com/article/7-top-secrets-about-the-beast-presidential-limo

                              There are at least two identical Beasts with matching registration plates in every motorcade so attackers can’t be 100% certain which vehicle contains the president and which is the decoy. During President Joe Biden’s inauguration, there were actually seven Beasts deployed in the mother of all motorcades.

                              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret_Service_Counter_Assault_Team

                              "Hawkeye" is the designation for a CAT assigned to the president, followed by the president's Secret Service code name

                              CAT operates both as part of motorcades and at fixed sites. In the event a VIP, the VIP's vehicle, or a protected site is attacked by multiple assailants, CAT is responsible for engaging and diverting the attackers, thereby buying the close protection shift time to evacuate the dignitary to a safe area.[9]

                              Hawkeye, when operating as part of a U.S. president's motorcade, travels in a vehicle several car lengths behind the presidential state car.[11]

                              A pop-up Gatling gun that comes out of a roof turret on one of the support vehicles:

                              https://www.guns.com/news/2011/07/16/the-dillon-m134d-gatling-gun-the-secret-services-secret-weapon

                              The Dillon M134D Gatling Gun: The Presidential Motorcade's Secret Weapon

                              No doubt other stuff that isn't made public.

                              They have closed airspace around him and they have fighter jets that will come investigate aircraft getting close.

                              https://www.faa.gov/newsroom/restricted-airspace-0

                              In the case of Presidential movement, the TFR is usually comprised of an outer ring (usually 30 nautical miles, but sometimes slightly more or less) and one or more inner rings (usually 10 nautical miles, but sometimes 8, 9, or 10 nautical miles). The dimensions and, even the shape, of the rings are sometimes altered to suit specific needs. For example, some TFRs are structured so that the outer ring consists of the lateral limits of a particular airport’s Class B airspace, or are created with cut-outs, as noted later in this resource.

                              I wouldn't be terribly surprised if, especially in this era of easy accessibility to drones, if they're also carrying some sort of surface-to-air weaponry, though I don't think I've ever read anything about it. They have electronic warfare vehicles in the convoy, though as can be seen in Ukraine, where Russia and Ukraine are both using drones that unspool fiber optic cable behind them as they fly to defeat jamming, jamming is not, alone, a full counter to drones.

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                              Instead of using this new pathetic armoured golf cart, maybe Trump should use one of these cars as a golf cart.

                              It'd sink in a water hazard.

                              But he has multiple of them. So just use a spare!

                              It'd get graffitied, set on fire by protestors, and then sunk into a water hazard.

                              But luckily there's many more of them available! So pick another spare.

                              And would you look at that, now he has the strongest golf cart money can buy!

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                                The buggy wasn't driven by Trump, but is thought to be his "getaway vehicle" should anyone open fire on the course. The black, obviously armored vehicle followed Trump around as he played golf, with many experts noting that it bore similarities to "The Beast" — Trump's protective vehicle stateside.

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                                He cheats at golf as well.

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                                  Epstein? I don't know him. I've never met him.

                                  picture of epstein and trump together

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                                  "ohhh, him. Epstein, yeah. He's the coffee guy, I think. Yes, he definitely brought me coffee... and many little children to rape."

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                                    I wouldn't be surprised if he only ever plays the bottom 9.

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                                    He said 12 is too young for him.

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                                      The buggy wasn't driven by Trump, but is thought to be his "getaway vehicle" should anyone open fire on the course. The black, obviously armored vehicle followed Trump around as he played golf, with many experts noting that it bore similarities to "The Beast" — Trump's protective vehicle stateside.

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                                      Cool cool cool. Release the files.

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                                        The buggy wasn't driven by Trump, but is thought to be his "getaway vehicle" should anyone open fire on the course. The black, obviously armored vehicle followed Trump around as he played golf, with many experts noting that it bore similarities to "The Beast" — Trump's protective vehicle stateside.

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                                        Who's a bussy bitch? Trump's a bussy bitch.

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                                          In other news: GTA VI release delayed, Rockstar says it needs more time to incorporate new ideas from reality, ensuring the game stays relevant with the current day and age. /s

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                                          Assassinating a guy driving around in an armoured golf cart does sound like a GTA mission.

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