Apple Caved
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That's the point isn't it?
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They’re not handing over keys though. They’re just not offering ADP in that region anymore(?) I doubt they would be allowed to hand out keys (which they do not hold) to another government that would compromise American businesses, agencies, etc. The US was already noticing the dangers in this demand and I’m hoping that this was an attempt at a compromise. I guess we’ll never know though, since this included a gag order as well
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kinda horrible to read all these "this big tech company is a rebel and my best friend" comments.
apple allowed this for the usa before many times. this time it had to be publicly announced, cause the orange sleeper agent told them to undermine the uk gov in order to allign the MEGA endeavour.
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Still good to keep in mind: not your keys, not your data.
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In the process of self hosting everything anyways. This just sped things up for me
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When the corporation controls the hardware and the OS it can easily break any encryption running there. Just include key loggers, break RNG entropy, extract keys from memory, or just capture any data before they are encrypted. Or just let the governments into the OS so they can do all that.
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"If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to say"
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Pretty sure Apple has a few lawyers
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Wasn't it something more similar to "saying that you don't care about privacy because you have nothing to hide is like saying that you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say"?
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Apple can claim that they never built backdoor. But talk is cheap without showing the code for people to audit.
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Both of you to assume I’m having sex with them.
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They would say "that's different" without elaborating why exactly.
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And that helps how exactly?
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America does it anyways. Have you not heard from Snowden? Or Wikileaks?
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If your government wants to look, we want to look as well
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I think it's the right move by Apple.
I don't think it's the right move by my Government to be ordering this.
Like most governments, the UK's has a poor record on understanding technical standards (They're still trying to implement age-restriction on porn sites, something that's been ongoing for a decade) Backdoor or lack of encryption - both make data security impossible and make the lives of criminals a whole lot easier. We simply cannot have safe data this way.
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The UK government has you that way too - you are legally compelled to reveal any passcodes if ordered by a court, and you'll stay in prison until you do. (Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000)
But it at least does remove them from third party exposure (phone company, their AI, massive breaches etc), you just have to be sure your own security is good.
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So what's Google doing? I assume they're impacted by the same regulation.
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Go all the way, remove ALL iPhone services from the UK saying the government will not allow users to have privacy. The government will go back on it within a week.
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Basically every phone manufacturer has its own layer on top of AOSP that is closed source so…
