Recommended me a good private email provider
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In 2020, Proton complied with over 3,000 data orders from Swiss courts
That's not secure.
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Any company that wants to operate aboveboard needs to comply with local law
That's why you don't run a secure email/vpn company from a country that's shit for privacy laws.
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Me to a depressed internet stranger: "Life is worth living"
Also me: Want to end my life every day
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They are technically not "owners" they are members of a "Board of Trustees" of a non-profit organization (the Proton Foundation). They are legally bound by Swiss law to uphold their organzation's goals of fighting for privacy rights.
But yea, Andy Yen's statements is quite concerning nonetheness, and its red flags.
I means its not like doomsday level situation that you have to drop everything you're doing and migrate, but its a good idea to pre-emptively move anyways, before he goes full elon.
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Switzerland is not in the EU.
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Tuta, Proton, Murena, Nextcloud Mail, or use disposable mails like Maildrop or Altmails.
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They have extremely similar laws in Switzerland
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Their response from the second Reddit post:
When you sent spam from your service in May of 2023, we asked you not to make us regret giving you a second chance. [...]
When you sent more spam on February 24 of 2024, we considered both interactions in our decision to terminate your account. [...]
Don't take my word for it, you already made the logs public so here's the spam you sent from our service:Unironically the best advertising possible for their service. If they're being rude to those who deserve it, let it bang!
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Have they resolved the slow loading and downtime to issues? I used them last year but the initial loading time was slow (I'm in the USA), and I had a few times over the span of a month or so where the page just didn't load for a few hours.
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What's one specific point that you think is an outright lie or has been gaslighted away? The linked post addressed my personal concerns, but I want to see if there's something I missed.
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People keep posting this, like some kind of biased blog post on medium is supposed to be a gotcha moment that fixes everything. It doesn't.
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For one, Gail Slater was only 'tough on big tech' for a few years in the very beginning of her career, and the entire rest of it has been spent as a big tech lobbyist for Internet Association. The most relevant lobbying being the opposition of a california data privacy bill that would require ISPs to gain customer permissions to collect and sell their browsing history. Needless to say, it's pretty horrifying to hear a privacy company CEO call a noted anti-privacy lobbyist a good pick with those 'credentials'.
Only two of Andy Yen's posts regarding the matter are shown or referred to- the original post, and a later 'clarification'.
Every double-down, the 'official' statement he (supposedly erroneously) made, the deleted posts, all of those are not mentioned, yet the author spends a lot of time claiming that they went through 'thousands of tweets and replies' to find everything relevant, which in my opinion is gaslighty as hell.The biggest issue with the article though is that it makes a ton of assumptions presented as fact about Andy Yen's motivations, which are then used as 'evidence' to discredit the evidence he's pro-trump... and then assigns actions the entire Proton company did as justification for why Yen, himself as a person, is not pro-trump.
So the evidence he is NOT pro-trump is that the company he works for and doesn't control has done some some decent privacy stuff, and the proof that he IS pro-trump is either thrown away, not mentioned, or discard on the basis that 'he totally said he wasn't guys trust me.'
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Thank you - I really appreciate the thorough response, that is extremely helpful.
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Proton lets you do that too.
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Fastmail has been treating me well. Unlimited aliases and masked emails are really the only features I use, but it’s got sort of the classic suite of productivity tools you’d expect. I self host equivalents of these, but for a drop in replacement for most of the g-suite it’s good without trying to be more than it needs to be.
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Posteo. Seems like it's missing love here. Simple, out of the way, it just works.
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Posteo ftw!
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I would happily consider Posteo but the fact that they don't support custom domains is a major deal breaker for me.
If - for any reason - I want to move email providers, I want to be able to do so without changing my email everywhere.
