Reeeeeeeeeally hard to stop my self from screaming “I fucking told you so” to all the idiots who insisted Trump would be better for the situation right now

[glasgow@lemmy.ml]

If you’re still playing the both sides cards this far into it you’re not capable of conversation.

And yep still an anarchist even though I’m rational and pragmatic.

[kreskin@lemmy.world]

UN resolutions don’t mean jack anyway

UN resolutions created the state of Israel.

[queermunist@lemmy.ml]

The US is in charge of Netanyahu.

[zarkanian@sh.itjust.works]

I'm talking about Palestine only.

[fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de]

Genocide is the worst situation

Very obviously a false dichotomy.

Do you think Palestinians wanted Trump to win?

[cranakis@reddthat.com]

Trust me bro

[maggoty@lemmy.world]

They want peace. Harris made no move to say she would stop the genocide.

[charapaso@lemmy.world]

Are you suggesting we should just go for a speedrun through the list, then?

[finitebanjo@lemmy.world]

A lot of people here on lemmy believe fiercely that both sides were equally bad about it, and it is exactly that sentiment that led to 6.6 Million former DNC voters staying home while a fascist took power.

[zarkanian@sh.itjust.works]

Which could've been avoided if Harris had taken a stronger stance on Gaza.

[fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de]

A lame deflection.

[maggoty@lemmy.world]

In the swing states the economy did actually poll higher among people who stayed home. Gaza polled highest nationwide but ultimately would not matter until Michigan. She lost because she let corporate advisors run 140+ different messages instead of focusing on the few issues that people cared about.

[maggoty@lemmy.world]

You talked about what they wanted. They do not care who the president of the United States is. They care about peace.

[hark@lemmy.world]

No, I'm saying that we shouldn't be okay with giving up one group while trying to use the rest of the groups as a shield for excusing genocide.

[timewarp@lemmy.world]

Yeah, no what led to 13 million (not 6 million) former DNC voters staying home was:

1. Being lied to & gaslit about Biden's condition.
2. Kamala hiding from interviews where she might get asked tough questions.
3. Kamala sending out Mark Cuban to tell everyone how much she loved big corporations.
4. Kamala claiming she couldn't think of anything she'd do different than Biden, other than having a Republican in her cabinet... while parading around with Liz Cheney & praising Dick Cheney.
5. Spending 2 billion on her campaign, giving a lot of it to right-wing networks for advertising despite them overwhelmingly supporting Trump & to people like Oprah & Al Sharpton to pretend that they were giving fair interviews.
6. Attacking other progressive candidates, like when she endorsed & paid for the ads to go after Jill Stein.

[finitebanjo@lemmy.world]

2020 total votes for Biden 81,283,501

2024 total votes for Harris 75,017,613

So I was actually over, the real difference was 6.27 Million.

[finitebanjo@lemmy.world]

I haven't seen polls specifically for people who stayed home, but anybody who voted Trump over the economy is just really really dumb.

[timewarp@lemmy.world]

I said DNC voters, not Biden voters. Semantics though. The point is that "she makes me feel joyful" wasn't enough for people to stomach genocide & neocons.

[finitebanjo@lemmy.world]

Like what? Negotiating peace while keeping Israel as a strong militaristic ally in the middle east is the only option for the DNC. If I were running the show I would depose Netanyahu and reorganize Israel military, but if I ran for US president on that platform I'd get fuck all for votes just like Bernie Sanders did in the primaries.

[finitebanjo@lemmy.world]

"I don't want many many more women and children to burn to death trapped under rubble while their families watch" should have been more than enough for people to stomach another Harris administration.