Reeeeeeeeeally hard to stop my self from screaming “I fucking told you so” to all the idiots who insisted Trump would be better for the situation right now
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cranakis@reddthat.comreplied to Guest 29 days ago last edited by
Trust me bro
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maggoty@lemmy.worldreplied to Guest 29 days ago last edited by
They want peace. Harris made no move to say she would stop the genocide.
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charapaso@lemmy.worldreplied to Guest 29 days ago last edited by
Are you suggesting we should just go for a speedrun through the list, then?
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finitebanjo@lemmy.worldreplied to Guest 29 days ago last edited by
A lot of people here on lemmy believe fiercely that both sides were equally bad about it, and it is exactly that sentiment that led to 6.6 Million former DNC voters staying home while a fascist took power.
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zarkanian@sh.itjust.worksreplied to Guest 29 days ago last edited by
Which could've been avoided if Harris had taken a stronger stance on Gaza.
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fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.dereplied to Guest 29 days ago last edited by
A lame deflection.
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maggoty@lemmy.worldreplied to Guest 29 days ago last edited by
In the swing states the economy did actually poll higher among people who stayed home. Gaza polled highest nationwide but ultimately would not matter until Michigan. She lost because she let corporate advisors run 140+ different messages instead of focusing on the few issues that people cared about.
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maggoty@lemmy.worldreplied to Guest 29 days ago last edited by
You talked about what they wanted. They do not care who the president of the United States is. They care about peace.
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hark@lemmy.worldreplied to Guest 29 days ago last edited by
No, I'm saying that we shouldn't be okay with giving up one group while trying to use the rest of the groups as a shield for excusing genocide.
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timewarp@lemmy.worldreplied to Guest 29 days ago last edited by
Yeah, no what led to 13 million (not 6 million) former DNC voters staying home was:
- Being lied to & gaslit about Biden's condition.
- Kamala hiding from interviews where she might get asked tough questions.
- Kamala sending out Mark Cuban to tell everyone how much she loved big corporations.
- Kamala claiming she couldn't think of anything she'd do different than Biden, other than having a Republican in her cabinet... while parading around with Liz Cheney & praising Dick Cheney.
- Spending 2 billion on her campaign, giving a lot of it to right-wing networks for advertising despite them overwhelmingly supporting Trump & to people like Oprah & Al Sharpton to pretend that they were giving fair interviews.
- Attacking other progressive candidates, like when she endorsed & paid for the ads to go after Jill Stein.
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finitebanjo@lemmy.worldreplied to Guest 29 days ago last edited by
2020 total votes for Biden 81,283,501
2024 total votes for Harris 75,017,613
So I was actually over, the real difference was 6.27 Million.
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finitebanjo@lemmy.worldreplied to Guest 29 days ago last edited by
I haven't seen polls specifically for people who stayed home, but anybody who voted Trump over the economy is just really really dumb.
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timewarp@lemmy.worldreplied to Guest 29 days ago last edited by
I said DNC voters, not Biden voters. Semantics though. The point is that "she makes me feel joyful" wasn't enough for people to stomach genocide & neocons.
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finitebanjo@lemmy.worldreplied to Guest 29 days ago last edited by
Like what? Negotiating peace while keeping Israel as a strong militaristic ally in the middle east is the only option for the DNC. If I were running the show I would depose Netanyahu and reorganize Israel military, but if I ran for US president on that platform I'd get fuck all for votes just like Bernie Sanders did in the primaries.
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finitebanjo@lemmy.worldreplied to Guest 29 days ago last edited by
"I don't want many many more women and children to burn to death trapped under rubble while their families watch" should have been more than enough for people to stomach another Harris administration.
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fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.dereplied to Guest 29 days ago last edited by
"Peace" isn't really an objective given that you'd have Peace the day after you ground palestinians into the dust.
Netanyahu certainly cares who the president of the United States is, who do you think he wants to be president?
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timewarp@lemmy.worldreplied to Guest 29 days ago last edited by
Democrat: "Trump is killing more of you than Biden isn't he?"
Palestinian: "No, there is a ceasefire now. We are safer than we were under Biden at the moment. We hope that Trump doesn't help kill 70,000 of us like Biden did."
Democrat: "No I said he's killing more! You must be one of those Russian Palestinian Nazis!"
Palestinian: "Are you okay? Do you need a doctor?"
Democrat: "FU Palestinians! I hope he kills way more!"
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finitebanjo@lemmy.worldreplied to Guest 29 days ago last edited by
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doorbook@lemmy.worldreplied to Guest 29 days ago last edited by
Israel Militaristic ally is just another statement that hold no value at all.
US have multiple bases in Jordan with strong ties. Strong relationship with Egypt, Massive base in Qatar, strong ties to Saudi Arabia and United Arab Emirates.
Pretending US need Israel is just a lie. They can literally make it another state and it would be much better option for Palestinians than current situation.
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timewarp@lemmy.worldreplied to Guest 29 days ago last edited by
I never said that. You're projecting again. 70,000 Palestinians dead under "I'm a proud Zionist" Biden, multiple vetoes by the Biden admin to continue the war, countless statements by Biden subhumanizing Palestinians.
Democrats: "22 Lebanese dead under Trump! That is way more than the 70,000 Palestinians & 2,700 Lebanese killed under Biden!"
49/98