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I derusted a vise left by the previous tenant of the house

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    I had no free buckets to hold the derusting solution in that the vise would fit comfortably, so I had to use a plastic box that was too wide. It would not submerge fully in the 1 Liter of derusting solution I bought, I had to soak one side for 24 hours and then the other side for 24 hours. It mostly cleared the rust. I'm considering painting it now, but I don't think I'm going to.

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      I had no free buckets to hold the derusting solution in that the vise would fit comfortably, so I had to use a plastic box that was too wide. It would not submerge fully in the 1 Liter of derusting solution I bought, I had to soak one side for 24 hours and then the other side for 24 hours. It mostly cleared the rust. I'm considering painting it now, but I don't think I'm going to.

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      TIL that you could spell vice, vise as well!

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        TIL that you could spell vice, vise as well!

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        I did not want anyone to think I was derusting my personal failings.

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          I had no free buckets to hold the derusting solution in that the vise would fit comfortably, so I had to use a plastic box that was too wide. It would not submerge fully in the 1 Liter of derusting solution I bought, I had to soak one side for 24 hours and then the other side for 24 hours. It mostly cleared the rust. I'm considering painting it now, but I don't think I'm going to.

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          For future reference, Eastwood make a rust removal gel that you can paint onto surfaces and does a pretty great job. There's also naval jelly which is a generic phosphoric acid solution that can also be painted on and washed off.

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            I did not want anyone to think I was derusting my personal failings.

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            In UK English we spell it vice for a "mechanical object used to secure things". I had never seen it spelt "vise".

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              In UK English we spell it vice for a "mechanical object used to secure things". I had never seen it spelt "vise".

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              Not native English speaker, so I checked the dictionary first, and saw that vise is an accepted alternative spelling. Might not be that common apparently.

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                For future reference, Eastwood make a rust removal gel that you can paint onto surfaces and does a pretty great job. There's also naval jelly which is a generic phosphoric acid solution that can also be painted on and washed off.

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                I checked the biggest retailers in my neck of the woods, doesn't look like any of them sell it.

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                  Not native English speaker, so I checked the dictionary first, and saw that vise is an accepted alternative spelling. Might not be that common apparently.

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                  It is more just the difference between UK English and US English, nothing wrong with using either of them this is just one of those things that I wasn't aware had a different spelling until today.

                  It is like tyres - UK or tires - US. Tires looks wrong to me because I grew up using tyres but they are both valid spellings of the word.

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                    I checked the biggest retailers in my neck of the woods, doesn't look like any of them sell it.

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                    You might find naval jelly at a marine supply store, I think Permatex makes a version. The Eastwood stuff might have to be purchased at an commercial auto paint store.

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                      It is more just the difference between UK English and US English, nothing wrong with using either of them this is just one of those things that I wasn't aware had a different spelling until today.

                      It is like tyres - UK or tires - US. Tires looks wrong to me because I grew up using tyres but they are both valid spellings of the word.

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                      Hmm, looks like it's the US spelling for a gripping tool, whereas UK uses vice for both a personal failing or a bad habit, and a gripping tool. I'm most familiar with US spelling since I learned most of my English from video games and TV shows as wee lad.

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                        You might find naval jelly at a marine supply store, I think Permatex makes a version. The Eastwood stuff might have to be purchased at an commercial auto paint store.

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                        After some research, apparently my local auto store does sell a store brand rust removal gel. As a bonus, in my local language it's apparently called "Rust eater".

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                          After some research, apparently my local auto store does sell a store brand rust removal gel. As a bonus, in my local language it's apparently called "Rust eater".

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                          Cool. Keep in mind, this is @ 20% phosphoric acid and sometimes a bit of hydrochloric as well, you don't want to get it on paint or concrete. But it works a treat, if it's thin enough you can get it into a spray bottle or water it down a bit if you need.

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                            Cool. Keep in mind, this is @ 20% phosphoric acid and sometimes a bit of hydrochloric as well, you don't want to get it on paint or concrete. But it works a treat, if it's thin enough you can get it into a spray bottle or water it down a bit if you need.

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                            I will keep this advice in mind the next time I need to derust something. Thank you very much. Bought a house from the 80's from a family of the previous owner, and they left a whole bunch of potentially good tools and other stuff in there.

                            A badly maintained, clogged, greasy electric chainsaw is on my list of things to open up, clean and lube up as well. Looking forward to that, as a mainly electronics guy, I only very recently started doing mechanical engineering. Opened up a fan that had a hard time turning, found out there were no bearings, just a rod acting as the iron core inside a DC motor. Disassembled, applied generous amounts of acetone to relevant parts, dried it up and greased it up. Worked like a charm afterwards, and didn't even lose any screws.

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                              I had no free buckets to hold the derusting solution in that the vise would fit comfortably, so I had to use a plastic box that was too wide. It would not submerge fully in the 1 Liter of derusting solution I bought, I had to soak one side for 24 hours and then the other side for 24 hours. It mostly cleared the rust. I'm considering painting it now, but I don't think I'm going to.

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                              Your mistake was buying derusting solution. Just use vinegar with some salt.

                              .... Unless that was your derusting solution, then your mistake was not buying more vinegar.

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                                I had no free buckets to hold the derusting solution in that the vise would fit comfortably, so I had to use a plastic box that was too wide. It would not submerge fully in the 1 Liter of derusting solution I bought, I had to soak one side for 24 hours and then the other side for 24 hours. It mostly cleared the rust. I'm considering painting it now, but I don't think I'm going to.

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                                You should definitely paint all the surfaces that aren't machined, as that's very likely how it would have been originally.

                                Also, what's dull about restoring a tool? There are entire YouTube channels devoted to it that are pretty darn popular. (Or so I'm told, as I would surely not watch something so dull myself. <AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet.jpg>)

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                                  You should definitely paint all the surfaces that aren't machined, as that's very likely how it would have been originally.

                                  Also, what's dull about restoring a tool? There are entire YouTube channels devoted to it that are pretty darn popular. (Or so I'm told, as I would surely not watch something so dull myself. <AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet.jpg>)

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                                  I am sincerely apologetic of posting content that you found not to be dull enough. I will try to be better in the future. Tool restoration indeed is interesting, but I thought merely soaking a tool in deruster for days would be dull enough 😞

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                                    It is more just the difference between UK English and US English, nothing wrong with using either of them this is just one of those things that I wasn't aware had a different spelling until today.

                                    It is like tyres - UK or tires - US. Tires looks wrong to me because I grew up using tyres but they are both valid spellings of the word.

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                                    I suspect we can thank Daniel Webster for trying to simplify spellings. I'm still not sure how I feel about it - I find some words make better sense spelled in the British way, like "behaviour", but I also appreciate the vice homonym spellings.

                                    At least the [vice](vice Etymology of vice by etymonline
                                    https://www.etymonline.com/word/vice#7762) / vise spellings make sense etymologically - they have separate Latin origins (see links). I can't explain why British English doesn't make this distinction, especially since they were different in Old French and Anglo-French.

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                                      Your mistake was buying derusting solution. Just use vinegar with some salt.

                                      .... Unless that was your derusting solution, then your mistake was not buying more vinegar.

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                                      I've been using vinegar for this for most of my life but have never added salt. Does that speed it up, or help in some other way?

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                                        I've been using vinegar for this for most of my life but have never added salt. Does that speed it up, or help in some other way?

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                                        I don't actually know if it helps at all. Vinegar on its own also seems to work.

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                                          I had no free buckets to hold the derusting solution in that the vise would fit comfortably, so I had to use a plastic box that was too wide. It would not submerge fully in the 1 Liter of derusting solution I bought, I had to soak one side for 24 hours and then the other side for 24 hours. It mostly cleared the rust. I'm considering painting it now, but I don't think I'm going to.

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                                          Probably want to oil it so it doesn't get rusty again.

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