Giving up control bit by bit

[buddascrayon@lemmy.world]

That was Samsung doing the work of dumbing things down for you. Stock Android has always been fast and loose with the locality of saved files. Especially if you are doing anything with an image processing app. They tend to make their own dump folders and don't bother telling you that they e made them in their own directory under the .data folder or someplace in .bin

[ansis100@lemmy.world]

Ohhhhh yes. Flutter + Apple has tested my will to live multiple times.

[silasmariner@programming.dev]

You say 'dumbing things down' I say 'that's kinda condescending talk that implies that anything else isn't shut when it clearly is'

[lv_insane_vl@lemmy.world]

Here is the entire output I get when I get that command.

username@server:~$ dpkg -L samba /usr/share/doc/samba/examples /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/LDAP /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/LDAP/README /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/LDAP/get_next_oid /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/LDAP/ol-schema-migrate.pl /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/LDAP/samba-nds.schema /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/LDAP/samba-schema-FDS.ldif /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/LDAP/samba-schema-netscapeds5.x.README /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/LDAP/samba-schema.IBMSecureWay /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/LDAP/samba.ldif /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/LDAP/samba.schema /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/LDAP/samba.schema.at.IBM-DS /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/LDAP/samba.schema.oc.IBM-DS /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/logon /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/logon/genlogon /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/logon/genlogon/genlogon.pl /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/logon/mklogon /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/logon/mklogon/mklogon.conf /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/logon/mklogon/mklogon.pl /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/logon/ntlogon /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/logon/ntlogon/README /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/logon/ntlogon/ntlogon.conf /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/logon/ntlogon/ntlogon.py /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/printing /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/printing/VampireDriversFunctions /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/printing/prtpub.c /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/printing/readme.prtpub /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/printing/smbprint.sysv /usr/share/lintian /usr/share/lintian/overrides /usr/share/lintian/overrides/samba /usr/share/man /usr/share/man/man1 /usr/share/man/man1/log2pcap.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1/mvxattr.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1/oLschema2ldif.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1/profiles.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1/sharesec.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1/smbcontrol.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1/smbstatus.1.gz /usr/share/man/man8 /usr/share/man/man8/eventlogadm.8.gz /usr/share/man/man8/nmbd.8.gz /usr/share/man/man8/pdbedit.8.gz /usr/share/man/man8/samba-bgqd.8.gz /usr/share/man/man8/samba-gpupdate.8.gz /usr/share/man/man8/samba.8.gz /usr/share/man/man8/samba_downgrade_db.8.gz /usr/share/man/man8/smbd.8.gz /usr/share/samba /usr/share/samba/admx /usr/share/samba/admx/GNOME_Settings.admx /usr/share/samba/admx/en-US /usr/share/samba/admx/en-US/GNOME_Settings.adml /usr/share/samba/admx/en-US/samba.adml /usr/share/samba/admx/ru-RU /usr/share/samba/admx/ru-RU/GNOME_Settings.adml /usr/share/samba/admx/samba.admx /usr/share/samba/mdssvc /usr/share/samba/mdssvc/elasticsearch_mappings.json /usr/share/samba/update-apparmor-samba-profile /var /var/lib /var/lib/samba /var/lib/samba/printers /var/lib/samba/printers/COLOR /var/lib/samba/printers/IA64 /var/lib/samba/printers/W32ALPHA /var/lib/samba/printers/W32MIPS /var/lib/samba/printers/W32PPC /var/lib/samba/printers/W32X86 /var/lib/samba/printers/WIN40 /var/lib/samba/printers/x64 /usr/share/bug/samba/presubj /usr/share/bug/samba/script

Now, if I grep those commands, I get these outputs

username@server:~$ dpkg -S samba | grep "smb.conf" samba-common: /usr/share/samba/smb.conf samba-common: /usr/share/doc/samba-common/examples/smb.conf.default python3-samba: /usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/samba/gp/gp_smb_conf_ext.py

username@server:~$ dpkg -L samba | grep "smb.conf" username@server:~$

And these are copy and pasted straight from my terminal.

[chiliedogg@lemmy.world]

I'm saying that people who have grown up in the world of smartphones and apps are used to files just going into the ether and the app knowing where it is, and they never learned how to navigate a file system.

[gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

It's a tool that you don't understand how to use and choose to blame the people building it for free failing to properly document their tool.

Ftfy

Just because it's provided free doesn't mean you're off the hook for not telling people how it works, dumbass

[kamen@lemmy.world]

I suppose those are the same people who make a full screen screenshot in order to share a picture.

[wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works]

Like I said, it obviously can only track files installed by the package, if the conf was generated by the executable after, or if you created it, the package system cannot know about it.

Also, you're still using -S wrong. It takes a file path as argument, not a package name. And does the opposite of -L by showing you which installed package, if any, owns an existing file.

[jackbydev@programming.dev]

It's an audio recording app, not a screen recording app. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.recorder

That's why I said look under audio instead of video.

Either way, I edited it to be specific about what apps I am using.

[pelespirit@sh.itjust.works]

I know what you were saying.

[redditisdeddit@lemmy.world]

I miss when computers did what you wanted them to do and not what the corporation wants you to do.

[flatplutosociety@lemmy.world]

Is that not how it still works? When I download a file, it either goes straight to the Downloads folder, or to an app-specific subfolder within Downloads. And there's a Files app that lets you go through the file system (although I'm sure there are some system folders that aren't accessible without rooting). I don't think I've ever been confused about where a file is saved.

[psyvibe@lemm.ee]

No, they're taking a picture of the screen with their phone.

[lv_insane_vl@lemmy.world]

And like I said

this command didn't really do what I wanted it to do then

I just want to do something like find {package name} | grep "config.conf" or something like that. I normally know what the program is called, I just don't know where it is located.

[xanvial@lemmy.world]

I'm pretty sure this is google chrome issue. When I use Samsung Internet, I can choose the download location

[spujb@lemmy.cafe]

i wrote a whole comment but deleted it this comment explains better https://programming.dev/comment/17202550

[spujb@lemmy.cafe]

It’s almost as if this is a computer architecture designed for idiots human beings who don’t know or care what a file is interact with computers on a non-file oriented basis or have been lied to and systemically unsupported in their education for what purposes their data is being harvested.

No hate. No useful conversation starts with calling large swaths of people idiots, is all.

[redacted@infosec.pub]

File manager > Recent files

[noxypaws@pawb.social]

I really lost my shit when Firefox downloaded some Belfort & Lupin subtitles and I could not for the fucking live of me find them.

Turns out it put them in the "Movies" folder instead of "Downloads" where it actually put the corresponding video files.

[spujb@lemmy.cafe]

cc @[email protected]

i think there’s lots of different flavors of android or something, such that different phones handle the user-facing file system totally differently. it might also be that nicer phones the devs put more effort into making UX have a more forgiving learning curve but because android isn’t truly open source those developments are inaccessible to other users