Why do most people stay in centralized social media platforms when the Fediverse exists?
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The whole point of ActivityPub is that you don't need multiple accounts on different servers. You can use your Lemmy account to talk to people on Mastodon, browse PixelFed, watch PeerTube. Yes, there is sometimes lag in content propagating, and so on, but it's clearly not a show stopper. My experience using Lemmy and Mastodon is the opposite of terrible.
You don't get me. My instance isn't Federated with lemmy.world and other large instances. I just don't see the majority of comments or content you do on this account.
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You don't get me. My instance isn't Federated with lemmy.world and other large instances. I just don't see the majority of comments or content you do on this account.
And I don't see that as a problem. I don't think Fediverse needs to be fully connected the way a centralized platform is. The fact that different instances can choose whom they federate with is a feature not a bug. Fediverse favors creating smaller communities that are smaller and more personal, instead of just being one giant cesspool. It's a different way to interact with people.
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Ease of access and user experience. A single platform beats that, as you don’t have to choose where to signup and everything will be available without effort.
However, Lemmy is getting better with that and hopefully the user base continues growing. It doesn’t need to have a billion users to be an awesome experience.
Plus it's not easy to explain.
Instagram is for pictures and reels
Facebook is for people you know IRL
Twitter* is for short sentences you spit out
Lemmy... well it's a collection of lots of different instances and then you've got communities on each one and some are duplicated but you can join them anyway etc etc- I refuse to say X cos its wanky
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Have you invited people to the fediverse?
Yep I literally didn't hear about it till last week
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Is there a TikTok replacement in the Fediverse? The main reason my wife uses it is because the recommendations are the best. Feel like you have to do more self searching here.
Yes, it’s called Loops, though it’s still in development.
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Because all their friends stay. So to get them to switch, you'd need everyone thay know to switch, which would need everyone they know to switch...
... soon, you need to organize a switch between millions of people, which really isn't happening.
So the only people on fedi are those ok with keeping multiple profiles, and even then just the ones that value the technical aspects over quantity of content: mostly tech nerds and people with strong feelings about politics.
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Yep I literally didn't hear about it till last week
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Is mastodon the app that has it? I’m still pretty new to knowing wtf it even is
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Network effect. Next question.
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There are going to be layers to this.
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There are lots of people who are just downright too stupid. They wouldn't be on the internet at all if Tim Apple didn't put it in a baby baba for them to suck it out of. They use Facebook because their iPhone came with the Facebook app pre-installed.
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There are lots of people for whom popularity is the only thing that exists. Their brain cannot function beyond "Everyone uses Twitter." They'll adopt this platform only after everyone else in the world does.
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There are lots of people who have bought the propaganda. The dark web is for drug traffickers and hitmen, torrenting is for pirates, end-to-end encryption is for traitors, and Mastodon is for Linux neckbeards. You shouldn't associate with those people.
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There's this weird trend where the commercial platforms are becoming hives for conservatives, so they're probably going to stay put in their echo chambers. I have observed little to no presence of actual conservatives on this platform; beyond the horseshoe effect with the tankie crowd.
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The culture of content consumption is not supported by the Fediverse. We don't do algorithmic slop troughs here, and the amount of content on Peertube and Loops rounds down to zero, so it doesn't fulfill the role of mesmerizing colors and sounds for staring at and drooling like Tiktok does or linear television did.
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Open source software is usually a bit shit. Be it lack of budget, opinionated developers, redundant projects...we can never have one of something. Why does Lemmy, Mbin and Piefed exist simultaneously? We always end up with software that mostly works, has a lot less graphical polish, a shitty project name, a few missing key features and a couple workarounds you just have to know about. Or an intentionally godawful UI. That'll put people off.
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A few people who show up are going to be put off by the weirdest decision they'll be asked to make this month: "Choose an instance, your choice doesn't matter, just pick one." If it doesn't matter, why make me pick? I bet if you watched 100 people try to sign up for a Fediverse platform, at least 30 of them will balk at that stage. I've sat and stared at that for awhile myself and I'm one of the ones who made it through.
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They just haven't heard of us. Ask ten people you know in real life if they've heard of Lemmy, or Mastodon, or Pixelfed. I bet they haven't, or if they have they let it pass in one ear and out the other out of apathy.
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A few people have looked at the Fediverse, didn't see what they wanted here, and left. If you play Satisfactory, for example, you'll find an active subreddit where the majority of the player base and the developers of the game interact, on Lemmy you'll find one community where exactly one person posts "daily screenshots until I get bored." It's easy to wander off, especially if you don't like left wing politics, Linux and the Fediverse itself.
I have observed little to no presence of actual conservatives on this platform; beyond the horseshoe effect with the tankie crowd.
Not a real thing. “Tankies” are in no way “conservative.” They want socialism, while fascists want to kill socialists and maintain the capitalist order.
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Is mastodon the app that has it? I’m still pretty new to knowing wtf it even is
Mastodon is a FLOSS X/Twitter
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Cool
How is it?I love it! It's like reddit was years ago, its positive, friendly and it's got a nice community feel. Has it changed much in the time you've been here?
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Mastodon is a FLOSS X/Twitter
Ok so are there any specific apps for the fediverse?
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Ok so are there any specific apps for the fediverse?
Mastodon, moshidon, jerboa
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Network effect. Next question.
If people hate fruit on pizza, why is tomato sauce okay?
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Most people are like sheep and just follow the herd.
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- Ease of use
The combination of having to choose an instance and then start with an algorithm free blank slate is a tough ask. It literally takes time to sit down and setup your initial “feed”, which is probably a good thing, but not at all what attracts users whimsical curiosities nor what they’ve experienced over their entire experience of social media.
I just browse All. Zero setup beyond picking my instance.
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The fediverse needs to be plug and play. Blaming non techy users is a cop out.
Default instances with little to no defederation
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Mastodon, moshidon, jerboa
Thank you
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If people hate fruit on pizza, why is tomato sauce okay?
Olives and peppers are also fine. It’s just pineapple that’s as bad as putting a picture of the Pope in your toilet.
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