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YouTube removes 'gender identity' from hate speech policy

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  • noxypaws@pawb.socialN [email protected]

    What's wrong with Golang? Agrees on all other points, and perhaps this one as well

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    The key point here is our programmers...
    ​They’re not capable of understanding a brilliant language...
    So, ​the language that we give them has to be easy for them to understand
    ―Rob 'Commander' Pike, creator of Go

    And here's a related blog post:
    https://valuedrivenit.blogspot.com/2015/12/to-go-language-is-mess.html?m=1

    It's a very opinionated language in the worst way possible.

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    • kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zoneK [email protected]

      I refuse to support them after they kicked Second Thought off the platform for supporting Palestinians over the GDF

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      First I'm hearing but that doesn't surprise me; it's probably better than most companies you could give your money to but, in any way they could, they don't do anything truly groundbreaking such that I can justify to myself giving money rather than just keeping said money in my pocket (and, in turn, much more likely to go to mutual aid, charities, non-profits, or coöperatively-owned or union-banned businesses).

      They could have done a more traditional coöp, open-sourced their infrastructure (even if it was just the app.!), or really emphasized a particular stance or message they as a company would stand by…but they haven't done any of those. They basically are just offering up YouTube but as a streaming service. But that doesn't solve the myriad of issues that make a streaming service a business that (like most businesses) prey on their customers.

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        Don't Be Evil

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        I am a building

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        • snotflickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

          Most of them are literally Nazis. Anytime I go to youtube and finish a video all the suggested videos to watch after are obscene "anti-woke" trash.

          The youtube to right-wing pipeline is real.

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          MSN is also terrible about this shit. I turned off their new tab garbage and replaced it with Bonjourr right before the election because of all the misinformation it was showing. Crazy we just accept this shit man.

          As for YouTube, this is very easy to verify. Sign out of YouTube > CTRL+F5 > look at the top viewed videos

          You will see what garbage most of the populace sees when they go to YouTube without logging in. I believe this is the real reason they don’t care if people log in or not. They can push the narrative while seeming like they’re being good guys by allowing you to consume content “for free”.

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            Boycotts are performative stunts that feel good but don't have impact on companies and even gets more attention ON those companies.

            No really, this is a phenomenon that's known. When people were protesting Blizzard, I swear to fucking god, people I knew for years who hadn't played WoW since they were kids suddenly decided to reactivate their accounts because all the talk about blizzard "made them nostalgic" and despite being sympathetic to the people hurt by the company, they simply didn't have the mental value-system to draw lines between those two things. Their own desires to escape and recapture youth was far, far stronger than the social messaging they honestly just felt was finger-wagging and parental scolding, so they rejected the idea of protesting without conscious thought.

            If we put that much energy into volunteering with groups raising funds for primaries, getting to know our neighbors and forming communities, we would abolish this fascist empire in a single election cycle. (Assuming we have elections again.)

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            Yeah, the Tesla boycott totally didn't work...

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            • chocobofangirl@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

              It used to say gender expression and identity. If it doesn't, that's a deliberate decision that could cause enforcement calls like 'well that's not your REAL gender so this isn't harassment'.

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              I mean.. It's already over-specified compared to others: "sex, gender or sexual orientation". It'd be equally right to criticize religion for why don't they write "belief, spiritualism, religion", and to include identity, and expression.

              They should just write "sex stuff", and everyone is happy.

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                WHO ARE YOU I AM FROM ANCIENT GREECE

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                • H [email protected]

                  It's almost impressive how quickly the whole of the business world capitulated to Donald Trump.

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                  This is what's fucking shitty about this

                  Every company and every politician and every person who bends over so willingly IS THE PROBLEM

                  It's like they announce their regime and these idiots roll out the red carpets immediately ready be the first company to suck the government off

                  If they all stood their ground, it would buy more time

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                    I would appreciate it if we could just get rid of this dumbass "hate speech" rule.

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                      Yeah, the Tesla boycott totally didn't work...

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                      You're right. They didn't.

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                        What about this idea:

                        Stop staring at internet videos all day and go get a life. Learn Spanish, take up woodworking, volunteer at your local school, walk around the block… do something useful instead of staring at Internet videos, or worse, making internet videos for people to stare at

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                          Boycotts are performative stunts that feel good but don’t have impact on companies and even gets more attention ON those companies.

                          No they aren't? People just haven't actually been pissed off enough to actually wield the weapon of "ok, fine, now I will not buy ANYTHING from you".

                          Boycotts most definitely work, Tesla's stock is plummeting, and one of the major reasons is an aggressive and enthusiastic boycott of buying Telsas (also they suck).

                          This isn't to say in any given situation a boycott is the best strategy to use, or that your organizing energy isn't better spent elsewhere, but don't dismiss boycotts when we are seeing one of the most effective high profile ones in recent memeory be VERY successful.

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                          No, this boycott at least isn't "working" to any serious degree. And teslas stock is negligibley effected by any the protest. It can all be so subjective, though, anyway.

                          Lol, no, i looked it up, this is not a "VERY" successful boycott. Not in the least.

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                          • samus12345@lemm.eeS [email protected]

                            It's too hard to change anything, but only if it's progressive policies. Fascist policies can be implemented immediately.

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                            It's too hard to change anything if one believes in laws, rules and the general idea of a fair justice. They don't have this limitation.

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                              First reddit now youtube. Welcome to the tech broligarchy

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                              We need a good federated youtube replacement so badly...

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                                I would appreciate it if we could just get rid of this dumbass "hate speech" rule.

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                                I would appreciate it if we could get rid of this dumbass. ^

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                                  We need a good federated youtube replacement so badly...

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                                  PeerTube isn’t bad, it just has no content

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                                    What about this idea:

                                    Stop staring at internet videos all day and go get a life. Learn Spanish, take up woodworking, volunteer at your local school, walk around the block… do something useful instead of staring at Internet videos, or worse, making internet videos for people to stare at

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                                    This is an unhelpful and condescending comment. It dismisses the meaningful activities people engage in online as "not life": self expression, creating art and community, working, socializing, enjoying entertainment, and learning new things. It proposes a false dichotomy wherein not-online is utopic with universally accessible activities and, especially, an absence of the very same people who make online spaces toxic hellholes. They are present in "real spaces" too. These are not mutually exclusive things. You are likely to find that pro-social activists online are often try to be pro-social activists in person as well.

                                    That being said, I agree that people get terminally online and that balancing digital and physical lives are important. Managing attention and mental health are important, especially when content about important and meaningful topics turn into viral and incessant feeds that are geared to overwhelm human brains that weren't evolved to handle such constant cognitive/emotional stress.

                                    Take care out there folks.

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                                      What about this idea:

                                      Stop staring at internet videos all day and go get a life. Learn Spanish, take up woodworking, volunteer at your local school, walk around the block… do something useful instead of staring at Internet videos, or worse, making internet videos for people to stare at

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                                      No thanks.

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                                      • Q [email protected]

                                        Still not that great, I rely on the companion to redirect me to channels through YouTube.

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                                        Yeah this is the kicker for me and for most others. It won't ever replace youtube until it can implement similar discoverability features and improve the onboarding process. Youtube is run by the shitlords, yes, but it's also a service that has no equal, literally has no peers. Until it does, it will remain uncontested and they'll be able to get away with whatever policy changes please them (and their dictator-in-chief. And their shareholders)

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                                        • T [email protected]

                                          Google search feels like it has stopped being the magic it was. Now whenever I search for something I might not find it underneath all the stuff on sale. For the first time in I don't know how many years I've been finding myself using something else like Duck Duck Go.

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                                          Yep, that's intentional. They stopped prioritizing user experience and started prioritizing ad revenue instead a while ago

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