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Mozilla under fire for Firefox AI "bloat" that blows up CPU and drains battery

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  • jonsjava@lemmy.worldJ [email protected]

    Non-profit isn't the same as not-for-profit

    Take American Red Cross

    They make bank on blood donations. Also, they take in way more than they put out.

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    This smells like BS.

    Is mozilla non-profit, not-for-profit, or for-profit?

    You dont really know do you.

    "I dont like mozilla so ill just assume they must be profiteering assholes somehow"

    "Its the vibe of the thing"

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      Awful Idea? Anal Intrusion? Actually Irrelevant?Activating Idiocy? Adding Incompetence?

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      Altogether Imbecilic

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      • N [email protected]

        This smells like BS.

        Is mozilla non-profit, not-for-profit, or for-profit?

        You dont really know do you.

        "I dont like mozilla so ill just assume they must be profiteering assholes somehow"

        "Its the vibe of the thing"

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        I only use Firefox. I've only used Firefox since 2000.

        They, by their own statements, are a 501( C )3, which is a non-profit, not a not-for-profit.

        Sit down.

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          But apparently, using the tools already available to you is not a common skill these days 😞

          So, are you not understanding that other people work differently, or are you just not using that skill?

          Besides offering different approaches for different preferences, there are clear benefits to the extra level of organization. As an additional exercise, try to picture someone using multiple windows and tab groups.

          Not everyone operates on the basic level. Hell, why even have tabs? The OS can manage multiple windows, and you can use multiple desktops to achieve the same result without that bloat.

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          So, are you not understanding that other people work differently, or are you just not using that skill?

          The very first five words of my message was that this was useful to some people.

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          • chaoticentropy@feddit.ukC [email protected]

            Firefox really does seem to have lost the plot... they don't seem to go five minutes without slamming their dick in another drawer. It starts to look like they're in to it.

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            I never trusted them. Who would ever set up a nonprofit owned by a for profit company if not to decieve people?

            I do appreciate the Open Sourced GECKO engine, though. I like Waterfox.

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            • J [email protected]

              If a browser only aims at tech savvy people, practically no one will end up using it.

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              This is an UI issue. You could just show them a landing Page and ask them if they want this new feature, and then it installs the extension in the background, without explicitly ask the user to go to the extension page to install something by hand.

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                I never trusted them. Who would ever set up a nonprofit owned by a for profit company if not to decieve people?

                I do appreciate the Open Sourced GECKO engine, though. I like Waterfox.

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                a nonprofit owned by a for profit company

                It's the other way around, the foundation owns the corporation.

                Still feels like the corporation is the one making decisions though.

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                • moe90@feddit.nlM [email protected]
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                  I was actually wondering why it felt like my Firefox was dying, possible could align with this.

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                  • C [email protected]

                    Altogether Imbecilic

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                    Arrived in the Idiocracy?

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                      If AI mustt exist it should be in places where the general public cannot access nor interact with it

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                      • gsus4@mander.xyzG [email protected]

                        Just make it an official extension ffs...

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                        I'm fine with them pulling a Pocket as long it dies in the end.

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                        • B [email protected]

                          Well, stupid people want it and they do use it when its shoved in their face. Like how samsung updated and BLATANTLY made their peice of shit AI button TAKE OVER THR POWER BUTTON so when you try to turn off your phone little old granny gets confused that an ai agent pops up and starts recording you. Absolutely infuriating and I wish torture on whoever implemented that shit.

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                          The kinds of people who want that switched to Google Chrome years ago. Only people who care more about software freedom than convenience are still using Firefox today.

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                            It's still a way out but Ladybird might be the alternative going forward. However, they've stated that it's only going to support linux/mac with a windows version in the "eventually" column which makes it kinda hard to sell to people.

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                            It's actually a smart move. Linux users are the most receptive audience, and the most likely to support its development.

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                            • I [email protected]

                              RIP the old Opera before they went Chromium.

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                              Fr, that was my daily driver for a while back in the day

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                              • N [email protected]

                                So the profit from the for-profit is passed up to the non-profit.

                                This is a really common organisational structure and not bizarre.

                                There's loads of worthy criticisms to make of mozilla but this is not one of them.

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                                Sure, whereupon the CEO alone can receive an 8 figure compensation package. That is not at all an issue to the viability of a non-profit.

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                                • jonsjava@lemmy.worldJ [email protected]

                                  Non-profit isn't the same as not-for-profit

                                  Take American Red Cross

                                  They make bank on blood donations. Also, they take in way more than they put out.

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                                  The red cross fucking sucks too

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                                  • B [email protected]

                                    Well, stupid people want it and they do use it when its shoved in their face. Like how samsung updated and BLATANTLY made their peice of shit AI button TAKE OVER THR POWER BUTTON so when you try to turn off your phone little old granny gets confused that an ai agent pops up and starts recording you. Absolutely infuriating and I wish torture on whoever implemented that shit.

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                                    It's not a new updated it's been that way for years.

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                                    • grapho@lemmy.mlG [email protected]

                                      The red cross fucking sucks too

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                                      I couldn't agree more

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                                      • H [email protected]

                                        Arrived in the Idiocracy?

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                                        Abominable intelligence

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                                        • E [email protected]

                                          It's not a new updated it's been that way for years.

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                                          Bixby was not llm based, originally, and sometimes updates will rewrite a user's custom settings. For instance, I had a galaxy on which I made pushing the power button three times turn on the flashlight. An update occurred that overrode that setting by deleting it and turned on five presses to call 911. I ended up accidently calling 911 at 3am (accompanied by a blasting alarm sound) trying not to wake someone by turning on the light.

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