Trump says Palestinians have ‘no alternative’ but to leave Gaza

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The difference in the PoliticalCompassMeme subreddit is night and day. One of the few places you can still bully fascists without getting banned.

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What? The people who didn't vote for her and/or advocated others do the same on the basis that they'd be equally bad for palestine.

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Why did anyone bring that shit hole here???

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"The Dems don't care about the poor. Therefore, there's no difference between the Dems and the guy promising genocide in openly fascist terms."

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Biden literally sanctioned them just for settling, Trump reversed it.

Of course this wouldn't have happened under Kamala. It may have dragged on for a bit, but they delayed the ceasefire until Trump got in, if he lost - they were down bad in an increasingly worsening PR situation and were somewhat tied to that. Now they don't care, look at them. Probably launch gaza baby NFTs and pocket the profits too just for kicks.

Straight into the west bank as Adelson paid $100m for the privlege, and now celebrating an ethnic clensing. There won't be a palestine at the end of this term.

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There's a difference between a room at the 105F and 110F, sure. I agree.

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There's a reason no one lives in fucking Wyoming. Why should they move from their seaside country to middle of nowhere Wyoming?

Let's move them to Florida's South East Coast. There's hardly anyone important there, and we can just relocate the people there a bit further inland.

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Yes. For one, Israel had already started on their zone idea. For two, Blinken was advocating for a two state solution because that was one of the requirements for Saudi Arabia to establish ties with Israel.

I can’t imagine the Middle East is going to be content with this occupation, especially if it leads to a new trail of tears.

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I’m calling it, this era will be worse than the bush era when it comes to American atrocities.

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I fully believe he'll put them in camp, or send them to Guantanamo or El Salvador, where they just agreed to house any US deportee or criminal, no matter their nationality. or....they'll be cleansed.

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I’m calling it, this era will be worse than the bush era when it comes to American atrocities.

What the fuuuck, the United States of America is going to own a part of the Gaza Strip. Are we restarting colonialism?!

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I really have a hard time understanding how all this is independent voters fault. There is so much rhetoric about how third party voters are to blame because things are "so much worse with Trump". Ignoring the fact that even adding all the third party votes to Kamala wouldn't have changed the outcome. 99% of the atrocities in Gaza happened under the Biden/Harris administration. I'm not saying Trump orchestrated the cease fire or wouldn't have ramped up the attacks. But there is no precedent to act like Kamala would have advocated for the Palestinians in this situation. In fact, she explicitly sided with Israel. She isn't some savior y'all. She was on the wrong side on this one. Quit pointing fingers.

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So that’s the difference? The fact that trump is saying it out loud?

So between a clearly labeled rat poison box, and one that says “probably not rat poison,” the right choice is the one that’s saying it’s not?

Because the genocide was in full swing when Biden was in office. They made some minor surface level pauses in specific types of bombs…and then started shipping them again. They cut the amount of weapons, and then upped it again.

I’m not saying trump is not worse. But you people are entirely missing the point if you think people who wouldn’t sign their names to a genocide are the ones in the wrong.

You all obviously missed the point further down my comment, where I said stop fighting people who want to end the genocide? Because, that’s what you want, right? If it is, you wouldn’t be doing what you’re doing.

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“My candidate was the right choice and you’re wrong. You’re basically maga.”

You have to see how insane that is.

I’m not saying trump isn’t worse. I’m saying if you people cared about the genocide, you wouldn’t be trying to throw anti-genocide people under the bus. You just wouldn’t. You would be working with them toward a solution.

The other powerless people aren’t your enemy. The ownership class that is committing and profiting off this genocide is. But you all are taking aim at the underclass because it gives you a high horse to ride.

That is wrong. That’s my point. But you all just doubled down in the face of that sentiment.

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Nah, she would have just continued to do it quietly, just like Biden did. You people are fucking monsters man. Absolutely no sympathy for the Palestinian people.

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The rest of the world needs to get off its ass and ensure Gaza is rebuilt on Israel’s shekel for the Palestinians like a modern day Marshall plan. And ideally prosecute a couple of people for actively advancing genocide.

Except remember, those are America's shekels being spent.

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At this point I’m all for anything that puts some peace and quiet in that area (that doenst envolve a Jew genocide)

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It's different. Not "better".

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Both sides aren't exactly the same, but why don't you want more differences?

Sides could be irrelevant of we replaced First-past-the-post voting with a more representative electoral system. The solution is more democracy, not gleefully telling people they have no choice but to vote for your preference.

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Stop framing this like this is on the people who didn’t want the genocide to happen. It’s such a weird victory lap I see people here taking. Without fail.

Our blue conservative "allies" want nothing to do with representing any of us. That's why the way forward is pushing for electoral reform so the democrats will be forced to actually compete for our vote.

I get the feeling dems are so frail and fragile from using First-past-the-post voting as a crutch for so long that they wouldn't be able to compete. They certainly can't compete with the circus that is the republican party.

Fucking embarrassing.

Democrats know keeping 3rd parties from participating is a existential struggle for them. They are clearly willing to sacrifice the USA over giving up this hostage scenario.

Unelectable.

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Trump says Palestinians have ‘no alternative’ but to leave Gaza