Trump says Palestinians have ‘no alternative’ but to leave Gaza

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Yup.

They went from passing oppressive laws against Jews to turning them to ash in a frighteningly short period of time.

Fascism is 100% here and our nation is asleep at the fucking wheel.

Never been more ashamed to be an American.

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Trump is really thinking outside of the box to bring an end to this artificial conflict for good.

Rounding people up and dumping them in another country.

I honestly don't know what to do with your comment other than laugh at it.

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That means voting for parties that are to the left of fascists and that have a chance of winning. In the US, that’s the Democrats.

You're reaching out to people too stupid to understand basic logic.

Which is why an anti-democratic felon rapist is our leader and is currently deconstructing our federal government.

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Yup.

I see no difference between a Trump voter and those stupid enough to vote 3rd party or abstain from voting.

They are all scum, equally.

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This narrative that Muslims voted for this is disgusting when they really had no choice in the matter

Lol. They absolutely had a choice.

A shitty choice and a REAAAAAAALLY shitty choice are two different choices. They chose poorly.

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Lick the fucking boot more why don't you? Must not know any Palestinians.

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Hmm.

Vote for a guy funding an ally doing bad things but at least expressing disapproval and working for a party that has been known to be flexible with its constituent's desires.

Or.

Vote for a guy that made it clear before the election that he believes Israel should steamroll Palestine and is the leader of a party that he 100% controls, so there's no room for flexibility.

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!

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Hamas’s rockets have been untargeted with next to zero actual civilian casualties, the purpose is to financially exhaust the “Iron Dome” system.

Your statement is a logical contradiction. The Iron Dome does not activate when the projected path of the rocket does not appear to target civilians, so the only way to activate Iron Dome is to target civilians. Untargeted would imply that they're just sending them in random directions which is obviously not the case. No surprise though since Gaza has been intentionally targeting civilians since 1950. One could say almost exclusively targeting civilians. They've been begging for exactly what they finally got, but they hoped for a repeat of the six day war but with a happier ending. Imagine that each bomb dropped on Gaza today is a refund of a bomb that has been thrown at them over the last 20 years.

The internet loves videos of a little guy picking on a bigger stronger guy and then getting smashed into paste for his trouble. That's how this looks.

To bring this back to the subject of your vote for Trump; Israel exists in its current form as a projection of American influence, from its very inception this was intended to be the case. Its very existence relies on the fact that the usa can use Israel as a base of operations when it comes to keeping the flow of oil moving, and as long as that area has oil that we want this is going to continue regardless of anything else. Not voting for the people who have some shame and want it soft lands you with the people with no shame who wouldn't scrape a dead Gazian child off their shoe, and that's where we are right now.

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It only isn’t working because of people like you. You are enabling genocide. This is my entire point dude. Are you being intentionally obtuse? Because it’s exhausting.

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It isn't working because I do the exact same thing you stopped doing because it wasn't working?

That makes zero sense.

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Your statement is a logical contradiction. The Iron Dome does not activate when the projected path of the rocket does not appear to target civilians

It does, actually, it performs a triage when it can't handle a large number of simultaneous projectiles, and of COURSE it's designed to intercept missiles sent to military targets. What a bizarre claim.

subject of your vote for Trump

Just flat out lying now. I'm done here.

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Sure. We'll take them straight to the camps and gas chambers. That's where our country is headed.

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Maybe I spoke a bit too fast, if the rocket from Gaza looks like it's not going to fall on anybody, the Iron Dome does not turn on. So to make the Iron Dome turn on, Gaza has to point the rockets at people. Does that make more sense to you? Your reply doesn't make sense in this context so I feel like you're confused.

Just flat out lying now. I’m done here.

It's a two party system, so if you didn't vote for the loser you effectively voted for the winner. You should be used to logical leaps enough to understand that; if you can vote, your vote matters even if you don't use it. Not using it is a choice, and choices have consequences.

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Oh, you mean the Nazi regime where anarchists self-organized and fought the Nazis while everyone else was inviting the Nazis to the Olympics? Or the times that anarchists showed up to put a beat down on Nazis doing a dog and pony show at Madison Square?

The utter lack of connection to reality here is astounding. Anarchists were not a large part of the resistance to the Nazis, and the Nazi rally in Madison Square was confronted by US veterans and Trotskyists.

We’ve been dealing with that for years already… I mean, how do you think Anarchists ended up in prison in the US already?

Jesus fucking Christ.

We only need to be lucky once. They need to be lucky every single time.

... what.

It’s hardly “macho bullshit”…

It's empty macho bullshit. You're no different than the "No Step On Snek" reich-wingers in your relation to reality. Have fun LARPing.

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Well, i have bad news... all of those were genocides

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You’re reaching out to people too stupid to understand basic logic.

Thankfully this problem has nothing to do with general intelligence which we don't understand anyway. This is a problem with information and knowledge. There is a lot of false information. And people are unaware of true information. Thanks to the internet we have the opportunity to educate people we have never met to correct this.

These are people who fell for accelerationism. It's an idea that anyone, of any political position, can fall for. It's so tempting to think that things can get better by getting worse. Because all accelerationism asks of us is to do nothing. People will look at history and see the bad things that happened to people who tried to change things for the better, assassinations, murders, assaults, arrests and incorrectly conclude it had to get worse in order to get better. The truth is people kept working to make things better despite these set backs. People learned from their mistakes and then applied what they learned.

We need to keep reaching out to people because accelerationism is both useless and false. If we let things get worse they will continue to get worse indefinitely. People who believe in accelerationism will keep believing in accelerationism no matter how bad it gets. Unless we explain to them why accelerationism is useless and false.

Which is why an anti-democratic felon rapist is our leader and is currently deconstructing our federal government.

This has been caused primarily by the right-wing information sphere and the general capture of mainstream media by billionaires. Fox News has been brainwashing people for decades. And Q-Anon was able to get the boomers who didn't know better to trust what they read on Facebook.

I've had multiple family members brainwashed by Fox News and other right-wing media. They are all competent women who held down jobs and raised families. One of them wrote code and another built furniture and metal art. Considering they are all white they would get high scores on IQ tests. It doesn't matter how smart or competent a person is. If all the information a person consumes is fascist propaganda it's logical to expect that person to vote for and support fascist candidates.

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The important thing is that everyone should know my hands are clean of this because I didn't vote for either party.

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This is not a particularly helpful message for the time being since the election is past and won’t be for a while at best.

Other countries will have elections to determine if they have a fascist takeover in the next four years and beyond. Canada's next election is October 20, 2025 but could be called sooner.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Canadian_federal_election

This is more a wish on what could have been and leaves little room for current discourse when this is a dead end topic.

American accelerationists still need to learn their lessons. There was a hate crime in my home town recently against a member of the LGBTQ+ community. People in the local LGBTQ+ community went to a meeting to express their concerns directly to the police force responsible for conducting the investigation. This was an exercise in demonstrating power. The local news is talking about it and people know we will not accept intolerance.

So the election has passed in America, but many of us may find out there are opportunities to make a difference and be vocal. A person needs to understand that doing nothing isn't useful to participate in that kind of a moment.

Accelerationism is alive and well as is demonstrated by people in this comment section. So even though we can't change the 2024 election results, we are going to keep talking about them. If we do not, the 2026 and 2028 elections, which are not guaranteed to happen now, will look very similar. Even if there are no more elections in America there are still people who need help. They will not get that help unless people believe they need to be helping.

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I don't think these people actually care about Palestinians, it's team sports. They care more about saying "I told ya so" than advocating for people who are suffering.

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They just don’t seem to get any consequences for it.

The consequences are that Democrat politicians live in a fascist dictatorship, are persecuted politically, and remembered for their incompetence. Many of them are rich enough that they will probably not feel the impacts anytime soon, it really depends how serious Trump is on the retribution.

What's important is to care more about people than punishing the Democrats. If we are lucky enough to have future elections, we need to see the Democratic Party as a tool. edit: typo

They should have voted neoliberal.

There are more than one lesson to learn from an election. People need to learn to vote for the furthest left viable political party that they can. Democrats need to learn to adopt a populists narrative that pushes progressive and socialist ideas. Democrats are unlikely to do this until they are co-opted by progressives and socialists the way Republicans were co-opted by Trump. But delaying fascism as long as possible gives progressives and socialists more time to take control of the Democratic Party.

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Trump says Palestinians have ‘no alternative’ but to leave Gaza