Trump says Palestinians have ‘no alternative’ but to leave Gaza
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The point of the original comparison was to draw attention to how you're equating the militant groups involved with Oct. 7 (Hamas, PIJ) with the ENTIRE Palestinian people, which includes not only people under Hamas rule, in the West Bank, and in the international Palestinian diaspora. Was that not clear? The genocidal demonization of an ETHNIC GROUP based on cherry-picked incidents was the problematic thinking I was drawing attention to.
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Not murdering them all isn't a concession. They can't go live in Egypt. Egypt has 3x the population density of the US now they won't accept gazans
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You are commenting on an article specifically about Trump
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Rewrite your comment except make it about “the Jews” re: the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising. How does it sound when you frame it that way?
The point of the original comparison was to draw attention to how you’re equating the militant groups involved with Oct. 7 (Hamas, PIJ) with the ENTIRE Palestinian people, which includes not only people under Hamas rule, in the West Bank, and in the international Palestinian diaspora. Was that not clear?
Yes, this is not clear. The Warsaw Ghetto Uprising is an invalid comparison to Oct 7th, and your further attempts to compare the two fall flat and in fact manage to further vilify Hamas and Gaza who have been attempting to ignite this very war for the majority of my adult life by shooting an unending barrage of rockets and mortars at civilian targets while using their countrymen as willing human shields
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You are assuming supporting Gaza would have helped in some way. In reality Americans see the gazans as a bunch of terrorist squatters and any greater support of them would have clinched the rust belt harder and only won more support on net where it wasn't useful.
It would have been fantastic if team blue could have pissed off millions of white people to gain thousands of Muslims in Michigan for instance netting a bigger loss.
The problem is actually that Americans are stupid trash who have rotted what brain they had on TV and social media
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I feel for the Palestinian people. Their genocide will accelerate.
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Genocide refers to the deliberate destruction of a group based on its identity, as defined by Raphael Lemkin, who introduced the term after witnessing the horrors of Nazi atrocities. The term was legally recognized in 1946 by the United Nations. Genocide includes actions such as killing, causing harm, and inflicting conditions that destroy a group. Israel’s military actions in Gaza are not aimed at destroying the Palestinian population but targeting Hamas, a terrorist organization. Statements from Israeli officials and military practices reinforce that Israel does not intend to harm innocent civilians in Gaza.
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Israel’s military response in Gaza is aimed at Hamas, not the Palestinian population, which is not genocide but a defense against a terrorist group that seeks Israel’s destruction. Hamas's actions represent genocidal intent, targeting Israeli civilians and propagating hatred against Jews. Israel's actions are consistent with international law, focusing on eliminating Hamas and its military infrastructure in Gaza. The use of significant military force is justified, given Hamas’s attacks on Israel. These actions are not genocide, as they are in direct response to a genocidal attack by Hamas.
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Israel’s military efforts are designed to minimize harm to Palestinian civilians, with the IDF issuing warnings before strikes and setting up humanitarian corridors. Despite challenges, Israel’s focus is on protecting civilians by evacuating them from battle zones and providing aid. The actions reflect Israel’s desire to protect civilians from harm while addressing the threat posed by Hamas. Claims of genocidal intent are contradicted by Israel's humanitarian efforts in Gaza. The goal is to remove civilians from harm's way while dismantling Hamas's infrastructure.
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Hamas deliberately places Palestinian civilians in harm’s way to use them as human shields and to manipulate public opinion by inflating civilian casualties. It fires missiles from civilian areas, turning them into legitimate military targets. While Israel aims to avoid civilian harm, it cannot entirely eliminate the risk due to Hamas's tactics. The responsibility for civilian casualties lies with Hamas, which exacerbates the situation by using civilian sites to shield its operations. Israel’s military actions, while tragic, are legally justified in targeting legitimate military objectives.
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Claims of genocide by Israel in Gaza are based on misunderstandings and unverified information. The true circumstances surrounding civilian casualties are unclear due to Hamas's control of Gaza's health ministry and its influence on casualty reporting. The real causes of civilian deaths, including whether they were caused by Hamas’s actions or Israeli strikes, are often unclear. Claims of genocide are fueled by misinformation, and the real blame for civilian suffering should lie with Hamas. Efforts to end the suffering in Gaza would be better focused on defeating Hamas, ensuring peace for both Palestinians and Israelis.
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Not how it works because this isn't like food we are now going to seriously risk even having a choice because we picked autocracy. Millions are going to die and we'll be impoverished for a generation whilst authoritarian China moves into a position of leadership.
Furthermore this is a critical period in deciding if we continue to exist as a species that is now largely going to be decided by fascists and morons
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It is in fact not invalid. Hamas's rockets have been untargeted with next to zero actual civilian casualties, the purpose is to financially exhaust the "Iron Dome" system. And it's completely dishonest to frame it as "starting" a war, when the Occupied Palestinian territories, including Gaza, are under "Israeli" occupation per the definitions under international law (don't give me that "they took out their settlements in 2005" crap either).
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Just not true. America largely believes in Trump. We are just that stupid.
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Ethnic cleansing is as dirty a term its not an attempt to downplay it
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Skipped the part where the trump family will end up owning it
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Mostly lies and all the dead kids would call you on it if they could
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Not at all what I said but go off.
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Aaah, yes. Everyone's fault but your politicians.
rotted what brain
I want to disagree, but the mental gymnastics people will do to shield their party/candidate from any responsibility is amazing.
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You literally said it doesn't work. You used those three specific words in that order.
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The US President, yes. You have to understand that internationally, at this point, we just see this as just that: The US President. Your elections are your internal issue and we don't need to be expending all our energy psychoanalyzing your electoral system. As not-an-american, I don't give a damn about how mad you are at your fellow citizens who might or might not have stayed home at election day or voted in a way that you think was stupid. Not every fucking world event needs to be understood from the perspective of the role of Jill Fucking Stein as a spoiler candidate.
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For additional record. 100% of the moderation on this post was done by a singular mod. Most of it was "uncivil" (and I agree with those)... But a few dissenting opinions that were not uncivil nor provably "misinformation" were classified as such. I don't necessarily even agree with your post, but I see nothing "misinformation" about it. I see legit concern over the system and an opinion based on observation of facts. Though I wouldn't come to the same conclusion you did... it's clear a certain mod is mad about it.
Mod is clearly drinking the Dem Kool-aid and is salty that you disagree with it. As clearly made obvious by the difference in responses on this thread... Top comment in the thread doesn't get taken down... it targets and others "independents", but your response and the other low effort meme that points out that on this specific issue dems and gop are functionally the same (in your opinions) is immediately smote.
It's funny because I often disagree with a Dem stance... and immediately get labeled a Republican or even fascist... Which immediately shuts down 100% of any possible reasonable conversation that you could have. Same with these mods who just censor anything that remotely goes against what they believe in.
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Yes, thank you. I can understand deleting like, flat-eartherism or something, but when your worldview is something you've really lazily assembled, and you disagree with somebody but don't really have anything to disprove it, you belong nowhere near that delete button.
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I'd ask protest voters if they're feeling pretty stupid right now, but the truth is they never gave a flying fuck about Palestinians. They only cared about feeling morally superior.
Trash humans.