Trump says Palestinians have ‘no alternative’ but to leave Gaza

[tankfox@midwest.social]

So now you're trying to frame Oct 7th as a defensive action against an invading force? This shit is why you don't get support from people who aren't myopically pro-palestine.

[flyingsquid@lemmy.world]

Yes. To the point that I have spent hours every week both trying my hardest to contact politicians on their behalf and finding Palestinians to talk to so that I can hear their problems and sympathize with them.

And you have just squandered yet another opportunity to show you care about queer or brown people. Even if you claimed you cared at this point, it's really obvious that you don't.

[tankfox@midwest.social]

That's an awesome ideal that has never been more further away due to the inaction of team pro-palestine! We're now in a real danger of all of those very necessary protests becoming criminalized instead! Everything you say you want is now impossible for a generation because the way you tried to get them was so lazy!

[saleh@feddit.org]

Yeah. Clearly all the people that tried doing something, that got beaten up a protests, that got assaulted by extremists in their campus camps... Yeah those people are at fault. Not at fault are of course the people who did nothing except confirming to the people in power that they are fine with the genocide.

[bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works]

Gaza is an open air prison!

Okay, you can leave to build a new life somewhere else.

Nooooooo, that’s genocide!

[freefall@lemmy.world]

It wasn't an issue at the top of the list of concerns. There were more important things. Single-issue bullshit.

[bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works]

Population transfers aren’t unheard of. In Greece/Turkey, Italians from eastern Adriatic, German from Prussia and Silesia, Pakistan/India millions of people moved.

This Holocaust comparison is completely dishonest and betrays any knowledge of how it happened. Used in this context, it’s Holocaust relativism at best and likely antisemitic.

[sumguyonline@lemmy.world]

If he said this to people in my home town, there would be 1 resounding answer from those left standing "Live free or Die" so actually Palestinians that have nothing to lose because it was taken from them, literally don't have a choice but to stay and fight the boot on their neck.

[freefall@lemmy.world]

It isn't blame, it's observation. It is also not relivent to the second part of what you said.

[bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works]

Trump explicitly said Palestinians would live there in his press conference.

[freefall@lemmy.world]

One sure as fuck was THE alternative to plutocratic christofacisim that is currently digging in like a tic.

[freefall@lemmy.world]

It's not.

[bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works]

The American left completely splintered into subgroups that all hated each other and nobody was good enough to be an ally.

Supporting a two state solution is nowadays branded as colonialist fascism.

Not only the right became more extreme, the left has radicalized to an extreme level as well.

[bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works]

The American left completely splintered into subgroups that all hated each other and nobody was good enough to be an ally.

Supporting a two state solution is nowadays branded as colonialist fascism.

Not only the right became more extreme, the left has radicalized to an extreme level as well.

[bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works]

sending peacekeeping forces

Is Trump‘s Plan.

[bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works]

The US built a whole temporary harbor to deliver aid to Gaza.

[excentrifugal_forz@lazysoci.al]

I was still seeing this play out on Bluesky as of a few days ago. It got too depressing to watch so I noped out of my account.

[bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works]

applying diplomatic pressure

US diplomatic pressure delayed the Rafah offensive by several weeks. And there were many other things as well.

[endeavor@sopuli.xyz]

Wellllll technically those who voted against Kamala to stop israeli genocide got what they wanted. Israel no longer has to genocide Palestinians.

[dx1@lemmy.world]

It's the international consensus that Palestine is under military occupation from "Israel". Military action against occupation is an enshrined right under international law. The exception of course is attacks against civilians - which are not considered legal, hence the ICC arrest warrants being for both Netanyahu/Gallant, and Hamas leaders - but also which didn't solely characterize the actions on Oct. 7. That is the actual, nuance, objective description of Oct. 7. No analogy is perfect. The Jewish militants in the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising were likely signficantly more targeted against Nazi soldiers and paramilitaries, but at the same time, they also hadn't been stuck in the Warsaw Ghetto for a staggering 56 years, under a choking blockade since 2006.