Anon does some online shopping
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The X stands for eXploitation.
Dark design patterns
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Open browser
Browser demands updates
All extensions update simultaneously. Each opens its own tab to proudly announce bug fixes for bugs you never noticed.
Close ten tabs you didn’t open
Miss one. It autoplays a video ad.
Type in search bar. Autocomplete offers suggestions that are 5 years old, NSFW, or both.
Search for a product. Top results: Ads. Sidebar: Ads. Bottom: Ads. An actual organic result is wedged between an ad and a newsletter signup modal.
Click real-looking result. Redirected to a shady dropshipper site.
Back button doesn't work. It reloads the same scam page five times. You lose the original tab somewhere in a pile of redirects.
Click Amazon link. It’s a new seller with the business name “USB_Cable_Amazon_Partner_Official.” 13,000 reviews. All 5 stars.
Try to read reviews. Most are for the wrong product. Many are AI-generated gibberish. The rest complain about shipping.
Add to cart. You are not logged in.
Log in.
CAPTCHA challenge: Pick all the traffic lights. Traffic lights are 1 pixel wide. One is technically a lamppost. Verification failed.
2 factor authentication push. By the time you get the authenticator open, the session expired. Start over.
Try to close browser. Are you sure you want to close 37 tabs?”
Yes. It crashes.
Reopens all 37 tabs next launch.
Give up and use your phone
4 popups, fingerprint required, and every link jumps when the page loads because of delayed ad banners.
App store ad appears for the site you’re already on
Clicking "x" opens the ad anyway.
You close the phone browser
Go outside
Get a push notification: “You left items in your cart.”
I once responded to one of those "you have items in your cart" emails that I received like a mere half hour after finishing browsing with a "fuck off", and a short while later somebody responded and said some things and ended with "same to you too"
I immediately replied and said oh wow a real person replied, don't take it personally, it was directed at the automatic message.
they started berating me and telling me that I should just unsubscribe if I don't want the emails (that I never fucking subscribed to in the first place???), and then deleted my account and banned me from the store, it seems. I tried to buy something over half a year later, but it was declined without reason, and support told me it was "flagged for fraud" and didn't elaborate
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Missed the part where
Shipping is 6.95
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Sigh, open amazon -
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This is the reason why I had a long and bloody fight regarding the homepage of the company I work at. And I won.
Management wanted a new homepage, marketing wanted the homepage to be - and this is a citation - "Emotional!!! And we want ENGAGEMENT!!!" (For context: We are building industrial machinery).
Marketing got an external offer (behind my back) and a mockup of the homepage based on React with animations and an dynamic background which turned every PC we looked at it with into a space heater. And they wanted to spend > 15 k € on it.
I - as something yanks would call a CTO - said no.
Everything turned quiet "Emotional!!!" for a couple of months, but in the end I won with the argument that we are building FUCKING BORING INDUSTRIAL MACHINERY, our costumers seldom change and if so, they are also from some big boring industrial company who already know us because we are in this business since Ugh, the first CEO chiseled the first iteration of our landmark product with a flintstone in 15000 BC.
The rebuild of the homepage resulted in something that is quiet nice looking... but that can also work perfectly fine in fucking DILLO!
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Sad part about this is it's not comic hyperbole. It's just literally an average online experience.
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This is the reason why I had a long and bloody fight regarding the homepage of the company I work at. And I won.
Management wanted a new homepage, marketing wanted the homepage to be - and this is a citation - "Emotional!!! And we want ENGAGEMENT!!!" (For context: We are building industrial machinery).
Marketing got an external offer (behind my back) and a mockup of the homepage based on React with animations and an dynamic background which turned every PC we looked at it with into a space heater. And they wanted to spend > 15 k € on it.
I - as something yanks would call a CTO - said no.
Everything turned quiet "Emotional!!!" for a couple of months, but in the end I won with the argument that we are building FUCKING BORING INDUSTRIAL MACHINERY, our costumers seldom change and if so, they are also from some big boring industrial company who already know us because we are in this business since Ugh, the first CEO chiseled the first iteration of our landmark product with a flintstone in 15000 BC.
The rebuild of the homepage resulted in something that is quiet nice looking... but that can also work perfectly fine in fucking DILLO!
"Works fine in Dillo" is a golden endorsement.
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I once responded to one of those "you have items in your cart" emails that I received like a mere half hour after finishing browsing with a "fuck off", and a short while later somebody responded and said some things and ended with "same to you too"
I immediately replied and said oh wow a real person replied, don't take it personally, it was directed at the automatic message.
they started berating me and telling me that I should just unsubscribe if I don't want the emails (that I never fucking subscribed to in the first place???), and then deleted my account and banned me from the store, it seems. I tried to buy something over half a year later, but it was declined without reason, and support told me it was "flagged for fraud" and didn't elaborate
Oh fuck them
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Sad part about this is it's not comic hyperbole. It's just literally an average online experience.
I came here to say this. Often times the pop ups are so bad that I just leave the site. Its almost never worth it
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Theres a webpage someone made thats like a visual example of this but I forgot what it's called (maybe "I look at a webpage in 20XX" ) Anyone know it ?
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should of used a rust based browser
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The flip side of that is entire classes of bugs being removed from modern software.
The differences are primarily languages. A GUI in the 90s was likely programmed with C/C++. Increasingly, it's now done in languages that have complex runtime environments like dotnet, or what is effectively a browser tab written with browser languages.
Those C/C++ programs almost always had buffer overflows. Which were taken off of the OWASP Top 10 back in 2007, meaning the industry no longer considers it a primary threat. This should be considered a huge success. Related issues, like dynamic memory mismanagement, are also almost gone.
There are ways to take care of buffer overflows without languages in complex managed runtimes, such as what Go and Rust do. You can have the compiler produce ASM that does array bounds checking every time while only being a smidge slower than C/C++. With SSDs all but removing the excuse that disk IO is the limiting factor, this is increasingly the way to go.
The industry had good reasons to use complex runtimes, though some of the reasons are now changing.
Oh, and look at what old games did to optimize things, too. The Minus World glitch in Super Mario Bros--rooted in uninitialized values of a data structure that needed to be a consistent shape--would be unlikely to happen if it were written in Python, and almost certainly wouldn't happen in Rust. Optimizations tend to make bugs all their own.
While there's an overhead to safer runtime environments, I wouldn't put much blame there. I feel like "back in the day" when something was inefficient you noticed it quicker because it had a much larger impact, windows would stop updating, the mouse would get laggy, music would start stuttering. These days you can take up 99% of the CPU time and the system will still chug along without any of those issues showing.
I remember early Twitter had a "famous" performance issue, where the sticky heading bar would slow systems down, because they were re-scanning the entire page DOM on every scroll operation to find and adjust the header, rather than just caching a reference to it. Meanwhile yesterday I read an article about the evolution of the preferences UI in Apple OSs, that showed them off by running each individual version of said OS in VMs embedded within the page. It wasn't snappy, but it didn't have the "entire system slows down and stops responding" issues you saw a decade or so ago.
Basically, devs aren't being punished (by tooling) for being inefficient, so they don't notice when they are, and newer devs never realise they need to.
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We are all Anon now
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Oh man that sounds so great
Click link
Already installed
Feels chad man.wrote last edited by [email protected]If you encounter web pages where consent-o-matic doesn't work, you can report them.
Though it might take a while if the page is unpopular.
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OK. Someone please drop a comment to this post telling me how to make all the "sign in to Google" and "Allow Essential Cookie" popups to go away. uBlock filter list?
You can block the Google popup by adding:
||accounts.google.com/gsi/iframeTo your uBlock Origin filter
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Shipping is 6.95
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Sigh, open amazonI will pay 6.95 to not order from Amaozn, fuck 'em
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Missed the part where
Shipping is 6.95
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Sigh, open amazonI like that I'm financially comfortable enough to pay for shipping and not give Bezos a cent.
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Don't toss your monitor, you will need to go to the online store in order to get a new one
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I came here to say this. Often times the pop ups are so bad that I just leave the site. Its almost never worth it
Amazon redirecting you to the front page after you decline cookies is just amazingly stupid design.
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I like that I'm financially comfortable enough to pay for shipping and not give Bezos a cent.
Amazon offering free shipping is a large part of why the parcel industry became a hellhole of semi-illegal subcontractors even here in Germany where labour laws exist.
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I think it's interesting that in 2005, the internet had a ton of popups and scammy ads that told you "you just won a free iPod!" and everyone knew that was a thing. There was even a gag about it in Scary Movie 3 (2003):
Yet you don't hear people complain about that as much today. It's like so much of the internet has been cordoned off into walled gardens that most users don't see pages out in the open.
Those popups were so prolific that all browser developers responded by implementing popup blockers.
Which kind of led to the absolute mess of banner ads (and the adblockers created in response) that we still have today. I dare you to deactivate your adblocker on any of the major (commercial) news sites.
