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What do you believe that most people of your political creed don't?

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    Just wanted to prove that political diversity ain't dead. Remember, don't downvote for disagreements.

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      There can be too much political correctness at times.

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        Humans aren’t worth it.

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          The invention of money was a blight on our society. Abolishing it immediately is the first step to proper environmental recovery.

          What the systems of getting people their food, supplies would look like, I don’t know, but having corporations hoarding wealth and polluting everything needs to stop.

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            That Trump is neither conservative (in any way) nor cares at all about any traditional Republican values

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              Humans aren’t worth it.

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              Out of curiosity, how do you identify politically?

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                Out of curiosity, how do you identify politically?

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                Anarcho-syndicalist

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                  I think we need to figure out how to make leftism more appealing to centrists, and particularly to the cis/straight/white/male demographic.

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                    Just wanted to prove that political diversity ain't dead. Remember, don't downvote for disagreements.

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                    the anti-work movement has been a blight on communism

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                      As a USian, while I think gun violence is a preventable mass tragedy that unfolds daily here I also think that when minorities, indigenous people, women, queer people or really anybody who isn't a white christian rightwing men talks about wanting to own a gun to protect themselves while living in this country I agree. If you don't understand the very real threat of police violence that you can't resist or stop, and the very real threat of other kinds of violence that police will NOT step in to stop because of who you are, you can't really argue against owning guns in the US to people that have no other choice than to take this kind of thing seriously.

                      I think handguns should be made much much much more illegal, since the handgun is actually the tool of state violence and oppression, it is the tool of surprise murder and intimidation. On the other hand if you carry a rifle you have to state your capacity for lethal violence, there is no hiding it or revealing it like a powertrip or gotcha card, which isn't to downplay the terror and violence that evil rightwing terrorists have wrought upon the US with assault rifles, but at this point I don't think owning a rifle or shotgun as somebody who lives in the US is an unreasonable idea, especially if you have become a convenient political and literal target for the right.

                      To be clear, the whole stupid idea that owning an ar15 with a 30 roung mag, bumpstock and quick change mags somehow makes you safe to a home defender that breaks into your house at 3am when you pull it out and proceed to shoot 30 rounds erratically in the general direction of something you hear, sending bullets careening through the walls of your neighborhood and more likely killing somebody's kid than doing anything to make you safer is pathetic and spits on actual real gun culture.

                      Also I want to note that people who roleplay as mil-sim types by spending actual thousands of dollars on pseudo-military equipment to live powertrip fantasies are hilariously pathetic by and large especially because they are usually completely and utterly blind (or worse directly supportive of) to forms of authoritarian violence (state or otherwise).

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                        Anarcho-syndicalist

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                        I think that's neat. I agree about trade unions.

                        If you don't think humans are worth it, why not be apolitical entirely?

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                          Donald Trump isn’t stupid.

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                            I like the idea that people should be able to choose their representatives based on how they live, rather than where they live.

                            You sign up as a "gamer," or a "farmer" or a "soccer mom." Whatever you decide for that term. Your representative then wheels and deals and votes for laws that help you.

                            Any group that had 0.5% of the population willing to sign up would get their voice in the Legislature.

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                              Donald Trump isn’t stupid.

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                              Yeah I'm starting to agree. At the very least, the aggregate of "Trump + his advisors" functions intelligently, which is what matters, and that's scary.

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                                I like the idea that people should be able to choose their representatives based on how they live, rather than where they live.

                                You sign up as a "gamer," or a "farmer" or a "soccer mom." Whatever you decide for that term. Your representative then wheels and deals and votes for laws that help you.

                                Any group that had 0.5% of the population willing to sign up would get their voice in the Legislature.

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                                Is this different than proportional representation?

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                                  I think on the Left we have a "virtuous" cycle/feedback loop that results in increasingly outlandish positions.

                                  Essentially, for most people there's a serotonin feedback when people upvote, applaud, reteeet etc. People, responding to incentives like anyone else shift their online discourse to match.

                                  Similarly, even beyond the positive feedback, on thr Left no one wants to be a white cis male contradicting the feelings, emotions or arguments of a POC or LGBTQ+ person.

                                  The Right doesn't really have this problem as the Far right opinions are generally understood to be reprehensible to most people so those movements have evolved to work on dog whistles etc.

                                  It's a structural issue but one that puts us out of touch with the mainstream (consider defund the police, transgender athletes or immigration until we were getting murdered in the polls and it was too late to do anything.)

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                                    Is this different than proportional representation?

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                                    It would be proportional, but instead of your representation being based on your address it's based on a choice you make.

                                    Think of it this way; you're a computer programmer who works from home in Hayseed, Iowa. Everyone lese in your town is a farmer or working in farm related business. Your voice will never be heard by the Congressperson.

                                    Under the new system, your address would be irrelevant. You'd be voting for a computer person who knows exactly what you need.

                                    That's one example. You might want to be part of the 'teachers' or 'gun owners.'

                                    The original idea comes from a novel, "Double Star" by Robert Heinlein. He doesn't provide an actual constitution, but I do think it's a nice idea to play around with.

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                                      As a USian, while I think gun violence is a preventable mass tragedy that unfolds daily here I also think that when minorities, indigenous people, women, queer people or really anybody who isn't a white christian rightwing men talks about wanting to own a gun to protect themselves while living in this country I agree. If you don't understand the very real threat of police violence that you can't resist or stop, and the very real threat of other kinds of violence that police will NOT step in to stop because of who you are, you can't really argue against owning guns in the US to people that have no other choice than to take this kind of thing seriously.

                                      I think handguns should be made much much much more illegal, since the handgun is actually the tool of state violence and oppression, it is the tool of surprise murder and intimidation. On the other hand if you carry a rifle you have to state your capacity for lethal violence, there is no hiding it or revealing it like a powertrip or gotcha card, which isn't to downplay the terror and violence that evil rightwing terrorists have wrought upon the US with assault rifles, but at this point I don't think owning a rifle or shotgun as somebody who lives in the US is an unreasonable idea, especially if you have become a convenient political and literal target for the right.

                                      To be clear, the whole stupid idea that owning an ar15 with a 30 roung mag, bumpstock and quick change mags somehow makes you safe to a home defender that breaks into your house at 3am when you pull it out and proceed to shoot 30 rounds erratically in the general direction of something you hear, sending bullets careening through the walls of your neighborhood and more likely killing somebody's kid than doing anything to make you safer is pathetic and spits on actual real gun culture.

                                      Also I want to note that people who roleplay as mil-sim types by spending actual thousands of dollars on pseudo-military equipment to live powertrip fantasies are hilariously pathetic by and large especially because they are usually completely and utterly blind (or worse directly supportive of) to forms of authoritarian violence (state or otherwise).

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                                      The point of concealed carry, in my eyes, is that people don't know you have it and are more wary to start shit in general. Open carry just means they wait till you're asleep to lynch you.

                                      Its still horrifying either way.

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                                        The acab movement has caused more harm than it has salved. Furthering the ideas that there are no good cops means that nobody good will become a cop in the future, furthering the issue

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                                          I think that's neat. I agree about trade unions.

                                          If you don't think humans are worth it, why not be apolitical entirely?

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                                          I can recognize a good idea even if I don’t think it’s worth it

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