6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?
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I just deleted windows and installed Bazzite Linux. Everything just works
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I'll upgrade to 11 Enterprise via massgrave.
Sadly with Adobe and some of my online games not supporting Linux, I have to stick with Windows
I'll just try to rip out all the telemetry, etc. via O&O and group policies.What is O&O? I'm not to keen on jumping to Linux either, but I REALLY don't like the idea of having recall active and having Microsuck know literally everything I do...
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I hope many of us are able to pick them up cheap instead.
Yes, "reduce, reuse, recycle" in that order. It is better to sell or give away an old PC instead of just sending it for recycling or even landfill.
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You are compromising yourself, though I think you'll still get security patches for a bit longer
October is when security patches for windows 10 will stop. Its when it goes full out of support. LTSB will continue getting security patches for a couple years though.
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I'll have to use some sort of windows for VR, I need to investigate the various debloat options
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I've enjoyed Linux since Windows MEllennium Edition convinced me that I didn't like paying a lot, in money and time, to be an unpaid product testing guinea pig. A work friend put Windows 2000 on that laptop when ME went bad. I used it until a got a blue screen of death one day, and switched to Linux. The 1st was a $230 ePC that could be had with Windows XP or XanderOS (a flavor of Linux). I chose the latter, and had a great time of it. I've since used Mint and Ubuntu.
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You can't. Every single hack/exploit that goes unpatched will be a gaping door for hackers
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Been Linux exclusively for 20 years. Win 11 sure isn't going to change that
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Yes, "reduce, reuse, recycle" in that order. It is better to sell or give away an old PC instead of just sending it for recycling or even landfill.
Yeah but larger organisations just don't work that way.
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Maybe 43% have hardware that is not supported by Windows 11. And don't want to run windows 11 on unsupported hardware or go through the hassle of even installing on unsupported hardware.
If doing one registry edit and installing Win11 from the iso to bypass the silly "processor unsupported" message is a too high barrier for these 43%, how do you realistically expect these same people to go out of their way and install a Linux distro? Why should they be motivated to learn in which ways it works differently from the Windows architecture? And let's not get started with "unsupported hardware" - even though the Linux experience has gotten so much smoother, it's still not uncommon to have components with subpar or no real support.
Don't get me wrong, I like Linux and I use it for work - but to think a huge part of gamers will switch to Linux with just because they don't want to update their Windows is just illusory.
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Switched to Linux (mint) recently.
All my games run (almost) perfect and (almost) everything has been working perfectly.
Overall it is much nicer than Windows and isn't that hard getting used to.Would much recommend!
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I'm a lifelong Windows user and tried Linux many many times but could never wrap my head around it. Recently I installed Nobara and it's exactly the noob-friendly experience I need. All of my games run flawlessly, even the VR game I play. And everything is just FASTER. I never realized how bloated Windows was until now. I can't imagine going back to Windows at this point.
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I don't want to get into a big debate on it so if you are just curious and have a couple suggestions I'm down to talk about it. But I'm tired of people telling me that my reasoning isn't good enough for them. Like, great, thanks, glad you can be happy with it, but we aren't the same person. So I'd prefer to avoid any conversation where I'm just told to suck it up and deal with something. I am working on finding alternatives but all the ones I've come across so far are coming up short in a way that's non negotiable.
My biggest one is my O365 bundle with office apps, oneNote, and OneDrive.
I am going to be trying out libreoffice and OpenOffice this year to see if I can replace word and excel. Last time I tried they weren't there for me.
OneNote is my second most vital. I'm looking at Notesnook at the moment but I'm really not enthused by a monthly price or the idea of self-hosting in a docker container. I've hated most note apps and OneNote was the only one I've clicked with so far. I refuse to touch markdown so that kills a lot of them. I'm taking notes with minor edits, and I refuse to add markdown to the process just to do that. I also will not be ok with a webapp. I don't like webapps in general.
OneDrive is probably my most vital. I have 1TB for me and 1TB each for 5 family accounts. So 6TB total. And I definitely use the space. On top of that I rely heavily on its integration to the file explorer and the mfa locked personal vault section. I don't want to deal with a web interface or separate app, outside of an authentication hook for the vault, just to access storage.
Outside of the 365 bundle, it's mostly running dedicated game servers that have no Linux option. And that's it I believe. Certainly the most impactful applications. I think most other things I run, I can find acceptable alternatives to or can run in wine or something similar without major issue.
I wasn't going to berate you or anything. I was genuinely curious.
I am going to be trying out libreoffice and OpenOffice
LibreOffice is great. I use it on my work system at a medium to larger sized company (every single other person uses o365). I haven't heard anyone complain yet about doc comparability and I haven't had any issues myself.
Stay away from OpenOffice. It's practically a dead product. When Oracle bought OpenOffice, the community forked the project which became LibreOffice. LibreOffice is where all the development and community focus and effort has gone since.
OneNote is my second most vital
I don't have any recommendations here. I've never really found a "perfect" solution for this. Currently I use a few different solutions, but it's all centred around markdown, so they're all interchangeable.
OneDrive is probably my most vital.
I personally wouldn't touch OneDrive with a hundred meter pole. MS does so much screwing around with your data that you can never be sure if the data stored is what you uploaded. They've been known to just up and delete files they scan and think is malicious, even if it's a false positive. Then they're known to scan all your documents for everything, including potential passwords, then use those passwords to open password-protected files and then scan them also.
Then there's the situation from a year or so ago where they automatically switched everyone's documents folder to a "cloud first" folder, where they just auto-uploaded everyone's local files, deleted the local copies, and did it all without user consent or even informing users. And this resulted in all kinds of wild crap like people not having access to their documents because they were offline and were expecting local files. Then some people had their metered data connection getting maxed out. While others couldn't even modify their files or even save a file to their "My Documents" folder because the default storage allocation was far less than the total data of their local files. So effectively the data was held for ransom.
it's mostly running dedicated game servers that have no Linux option.
Most newer games that you can run your own dedicated server will almost certainly have a Linux option, which suggests you might taking about older games, in which case something like Lutris (Wine) might be an option.
But are you hosting these game servers on your desktop?
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There's a spattering of steam games that don't list Linux support. Probably the ones I play the most are Deep Rock Galactic and Last Epoch. Outside of Steam I play TFT a lot, which doesn't work on Linux since they added the anti-cheat software.
Those first two are reported to work incredibly well using proton compatibility on steam. Proton is not the same as native support, which is why its not mentioned in any official game
Information.A platinum (community) rating though is as high as it gets, may as well be native or better then on windows.
https://www.protondb.com/app/548430
https://www.protondb.com/app/899770
For TFT i found they use the same anti cheat as some other games. Used to work before, no longer does now but with dual boot all your current stuff is just a minute away (windows updates not included)
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Those first two are reported to work incredibly well using proton compatibility on steam. Proton is not the same as native support, which is why its not mentioned in any official game
Information.A platinum (community) rating though is as high as it gets, may as well be native or better then on windows.
https://www.protondb.com/app/548430
https://www.protondb.com/app/899770
For TFT i found they use the same anti cheat as some other games. Used to work before, no longer does now but with dual boot all your current stuff is just a minute away (windows updates not included)
Cool. Didn't know about that site. Thanks.
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Hey, what's your usecase like that requires sleep in the first place? I've never used Sleep since I moved to using an SSD as a boot drive. My computer boots in around 12 seconds with the SSD that it just made sleep unnecessary.
I keep getting called away from my computer in the middle of whatever I'm doing and I don't want to leave it unlocked while I'm away and I don't want to have to reopen 4 or 5 programs including a game, if I could shut it down instead of sleeping I would but sadly I can't
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I wasn't going to berate you or anything. I was genuinely curious.
I am going to be trying out libreoffice and OpenOffice
LibreOffice is great. I use it on my work system at a medium to larger sized company (every single other person uses o365). I haven't heard anyone complain yet about doc comparability and I haven't had any issues myself.
Stay away from OpenOffice. It's practically a dead product. When Oracle bought OpenOffice, the community forked the project which became LibreOffice. LibreOffice is where all the development and community focus and effort has gone since.
OneNote is my second most vital
I don't have any recommendations here. I've never really found a "perfect" solution for this. Currently I use a few different solutions, but it's all centred around markdown, so they're all interchangeable.
OneDrive is probably my most vital.
I personally wouldn't touch OneDrive with a hundred meter pole. MS does so much screwing around with your data that you can never be sure if the data stored is what you uploaded. They've been known to just up and delete files they scan and think is malicious, even if it's a false positive. Then they're known to scan all your documents for everything, including potential passwords, then use those passwords to open password-protected files and then scan them also.
Then there's the situation from a year or so ago where they automatically switched everyone's documents folder to a "cloud first" folder, where they just auto-uploaded everyone's local files, deleted the local copies, and did it all without user consent or even informing users. And this resulted in all kinds of wild crap like people not having access to their documents because they were offline and were expecting local files. Then some people had their metered data connection getting maxed out. While others couldn't even modify their files or even save a file to their "My Documents" folder because the default storage allocation was far less than the total data of their local files. So effectively the data was held for ransom.
it's mostly running dedicated game servers that have no Linux option.
Most newer games that you can run your own dedicated server will almost certainly have a Linux option, which suggests you might taking about older games, in which case something like Lutris (Wine) might be an option.
But are you hosting these game servers on your desktop?
Yeah I know OneDrive is a bad option anymore. I'm definitely looking for options there but nothing is coming close so far. Hardest part is space but each requirement presents an issue.
Thanks for telling me about openoffice, looking at things i think i meamt Only Office. Any opinions there? I'm not keen on the AI push but it also seems optional. Thanks for the positive endorsement for Libre being compatible in an office setting. Looks like they have a good dark mode too which I'm very happy about. I love having a black background to write against and has stopped me from adopting things in the past. I can't do white backed apps anymore. They hurt lol
The hosting is on my old desktop which is running server 2016. I'd like to replace the OS on it too. I don't keep the box online so I'm not keen on using it for anything other than game servers.
Appreciate you not going aggro on me over it. Lots of times I mention not being quite there for migrating it gets into this really aggravating back and forth where someone aggressively pushes Linux at me and doesn't like that I'm not instantly on board or that I have reasons they don't like.
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Oh I was looking at system requirements on the store page. Is that accurate?
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I switched to linux full time almost a year ago.
I have been thus far entirely unsuccessful in convincing anyone else to make the jump. Normal people do not give a fuck, will not lift a finger to improve their digital lives. I've been telling friends and family about adblockers for YEARS, and not a single one ever bothered to do it of their own volition. If I don't do it for them, then they just sit through ads like complacent sheep. None of them are going to change operating systems if they can't even install a browser extension.
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The Linux experience has changed quite a lot over the years. You're unlikely to have trouble getting your computer to work with it now.
Possibly/Probably but as I said. Right now win 10 runs all my productivity, gaming and streaming software such as OBS and Veadotube.
They run and run well. I have literally no incentive to switch to either a Linux distro or win11. If that changes, then I'll consider changing my OS, but until then...why would anyone?
