6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?
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Yeah I know OneDrive is a bad option anymore. I'm definitely looking for options there but nothing is coming close so far. Hardest part is space but each requirement presents an issue.
Thanks for telling me about openoffice, looking at things i think i meamt Only Office. Any opinions there? I'm not keen on the AI push but it also seems optional. Thanks for the positive endorsement for Libre being compatible in an office setting. Looks like they have a good dark mode too which I'm very happy about. I love having a black background to write against and has stopped me from adopting things in the past. I can't do white backed apps anymore. They hurt lol
The hosting is on my old desktop which is running server 2016. I'd like to replace the OS on it too. I don't keep the box online so I'm not keen on using it for anything other than game servers.
Appreciate you not going aggro on me over it. Lots of times I mention not being quite there for migrating it gets into this really aggravating back and forth where someone aggressively pushes Linux at me and doesn't like that I'm not instantly on board or that I have reasons they don't like.
looking at things i think i meamt Only Office. Any opinions there?
If I remember correctly, Only Office uses LibreOffice as its core and then adds or changes default stuff. I might be wrong about that. But ultimately I hear positive things about Only Office.
The hosting is on my old desktop which is running server 2016. I'd like to replace the OS on it too. I don't keep the box online so I'm not keen on using it for anything other than game servers.
Sounds like a perfect situation for loading something like Proxmox and then visualizing the Windows Server 2016 instance. You would basically have the exact same functionality but with way more options like cloning and backing up the server.
Appreciate you not going aggro on me over it.
No worries at all. I think the automatic defensiveness from Linux people comes from old misconceptions being repeated often. Or sometimes it comes from how something is read and interpreted. Someone might say "I can't switch because I need XYZ", to which a very literal response is "you can use ABC which does the same thing, so you can switch". When what the first person meant is "I can't switch because I prefer XYZ", which is a completely valid reason.
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If I was considering Bazzite and Pop OS as options, which would you suggest I go with?
I have used both Bazzite and PopOs for more then a year. They are both great distros. The reason I stuck with Bazzite is ease of updates since its immutable (I am lazy and updated PopOS only when I absolutely needed, and updating bunch of system packadges after a long time always causes something else to screw up). PopOS on the other hand gives you complete control over how to install things, and system configuration.
TLDR, if you are a power user, then decide based on if you want an immutable system or not. If you are not, you can just flip a coin and choose, Bazzite has better ease of use compored to PopOS on theory, but if you encounter issues PopOS will be easier to troubleshoot because it has more users / information online.
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October 2025, right?
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Yeah I do OS installs for other people all the time but my main PC is a hot mess and I run a bunch of problematic software including VR. I'll probably end up setting up a dual boot of Win11 & Linux and avoid Windows as much as possible. But I will procrastinate because I already use both OS's on other PCs so I know what to expect. I'll put it off as long as possible, hoping they postpone. Never do today what you can put off til next year
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All you guys said is true. You could get hacked blah blah blah. But to a gamer, a machine exclusively for gaming doesn't take any of that as a concern. Want to hack my machine? Go ahead! As long as you don't delete my games, be my guest. I don't save credit card information on it anyway.
But none of that happens in my case. I don't game on or run Windows. I'm just here to provide a point of view.
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Linux has some problems that I just can never find answers for.
#1. Can’t do 4k 340hz on my display port 1.4 cable. Even though I can on windows and Mac. In Linux the option is there with the nvidia driver, but the screen goes black anytime I try to use it. No solution.
#2. Ubiconnect won’t work with Ann 1800 even though it’s good on proton.db and others are reporting it works great, I was never ever able to get it working or find reliable steps to get it working.
It’s a needle in a haystack trying to find fixes for things like this. Linux offers a lot, but still doesn’t offer the most important thing ease of fixing problems quickly so you can just do what you want to do.
Run a game and work at the native resolution.
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Unpopular opinion but I'm just using 11. I deal with enough problems with Linux at work and as hard as it is to believe, Windows just work and fits my workflow too well. Linux works great on my Steam Deck but the occasional weird quirks it has with certain games/launchers means I can't use it as my main gaming platform, it's only fine on the Deck because it has advantages for the form factor.
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I understand where you're coming from. I myself prefer using a terminal for most things, and use arch (btw) for the PC I game on. I understand that learning Linux is the best move for folks, but I don't see that being an option, at least initially, for people on the fence.
I know that, from a Linux user's perspective, it is the wrong move, but I have plenty of friends that want a "no terminal, gaming ready" distro before they make the move. I see it more as a first step, removing the barrier for making the switch to Linux. Once they are already there, it's much easier to convince themselves to learn Linux a bit deeper if needed over time.
I don't know, maybe I'm just naive and hopeful, but there are a good number of my friends that I think will make the switch to Linux that wouldn't have without SteamOS.
I get that, I just hope they don't end up disappointed and go back to Winblows.
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The approach isn’t what became a joke, it was the absolutely unhinged way in which it was presented.
I'd take that any day over the unhinged AI focus from all these companies now or Google's awful documentation from the past few years.
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looking at things i think i meamt Only Office. Any opinions there?
If I remember correctly, Only Office uses LibreOffice as its core and then adds or changes default stuff. I might be wrong about that. But ultimately I hear positive things about Only Office.
The hosting is on my old desktop which is running server 2016. I'd like to replace the OS on it too. I don't keep the box online so I'm not keen on using it for anything other than game servers.
Sounds like a perfect situation for loading something like Proxmox and then visualizing the Windows Server 2016 instance. You would basically have the exact same functionality but with way more options like cloning and backing up the server.
Appreciate you not going aggro on me over it.
No worries at all. I think the automatic defensiveness from Linux people comes from old misconceptions being repeated often. Or sometimes it comes from how something is read and interpreted. Someone might say "I can't switch because I need XYZ", to which a very literal response is "you can use ABC which does the same thing, so you can switch". When what the first person meant is "I can't switch because I prefer XYZ", which is a completely valid reason.
Right on, I'll have to check out proxmox, i don't have any experience with it yet. That'd be dope to switch at least one computer over to something linix based.
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Unpopular opinion but I'm just using 11. I deal with enough problems with Linux at work and as hard as it is to believe, Windows just work and fits my workflow too well. Linux works great on my Steam Deck but the occasional weird quirks it has with certain games/launchers means I can't use it as my main gaming platform, it's only fine on the Deck because it has advantages for the form factor.
All games work in 11. You will get the best picture quality for graphics on 11. More DX9 games work in 11 than worked in 10. Path tracing is best on 11. I have some games that are DVD installs, no game store launcher.
There are different Linux programs that address most Windows issues but not all. With Windows, you can install Win 11, install GPU driver, and start playing games. I do avoid using Steam due to their extortion, so eventually I find games that can't run on Linux.
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I got a new PC recently so unfortunately I am now on Windows 11. I’ve been wanting to make the swap to Linux but I can’t really make a clean break because at least some of the games I play a lot won’t work on Linux. I do think I’m gonna try to set up another hard drive with Linux on it to try to slowly start learning it and ideally move over anything that I can over there eventually and just keep the windows drive for those few games.
Does anyone have any recommendations related to that? Distro for gaming/ease of use? What’s the best option for setting up the dual boot? Anything I wouldn’t have thought of that’s relevant?
Since your computer is running Windows 11 already, I would recommend you look for a Linux distro without considering if it's gaming-friendly. Linux is great for certain productivity tasks.
For dualbooting, most official Linux installation guides offer detailed steps for that. Grub (the boot management program) is well tested and widely used.
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I'm going to move over to Mint on my laptop, it's older but still working great after I swapped an SSD drive in. Biggest issue is backing up the laptop before installing Linux.
I have another computer I plan on duel boot with Windows 10 so I have access if I need windows for certain programs.
I have no control over my work computer so Windows 11 there.And unless one of my brothers steps up and buys our Dad a Windows 11 computer (I bought the Windows 10 computer, which is why it was so cheap it can't take 11.
) since I'm his tech support if my brothers don't step up he is going to Linux. No matter what I'm going to have to listen to him complain about how it is different so it will be a good time to move to Linux. Probably a version that tries to mimic Windows. -
Definitely you should look into Linux, it's really gotten quite good. Especially if you don't need games with anti cheat.
But if you just want to use Windows 11, it's super duper easy. Just Google "download Windows 11 iso" and grab the iso file from Microsoft website.
Then download Rufus.
Then pop in a thumb drive that's at least 8gb. Open Rufus, select your thumb drive and the iso, then choose the option to remove windows requirements, then click start.
Backup your files on Windows 10, save them somewhere. Then pop in the thumb drive and install windows 11 fresh.
The requirements aren't actually required. Win 11 runs fine on all sorts of hardware. Support stops at 8th Gen Intel, but I've installed it on 5th Gen. My work laptop is 2nd or 3rd Gen. It's fine
️Technically less secure? Yeah, in some ways. But it's miles ahead of running unpatched windows 10 after September.
What comes after fresh install? Massgrave ?
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I switched to linux full time almost a year ago.
I have been thus far entirely unsuccessful in convincing anyone else to make the jump. Normal people do not give a fuck, will not lift a finger to improve their digital lives. I've been telling friends and family about adblockers for YEARS, and not a single one ever bothered to do it of their own volition. If I don't do it for them, then they just sit through ads like complacent sheep. None of them are going to change operating systems if they can't even install a browser extension.
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I have 11, so not directly affected. But with "no more security updates" being the only real reason one needs to change, the obvious question here is if there is 3rd party software that can protect a Windows 10 system?
I remember when anti-virus software was in common use.
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I am going to attempt to switch to Linux, I'm definitely not going to willingly use windows platforms again.
I bought a new computer a few years ago that has 11 on it. With how the Steam Deck has seemed to really promote Linux for gaming, I'm seriously considering it on my next build.
It is very obvious to me that Windows is becoming increasingly subject to enshittification.
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I really just don't understand this. Folks will not lift a finger or a brain cell to figure out tech.
I was thinking about this earlier today for myself. Not specifically about computers, but the same principle. If I have something that bugs me and wastes 10 seconds of my time every single day but I could permanently fix the problem in an hour - logically it's worth fixing. Even if it eventually saves time, I have to invest an hour of time and brainpower right now. If it's something I don't really care about, it's just not worth it. I don't need that hassle, I'll just have a small annoyance every day instead of a big annoyance today. I've got better things to do. Like browsing Lemmy apparently
