Which instances have the most diverse points of view?
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I seriously disagree, there are many better than me over on Lemmygrad and Hexbear. I just spend more time on federated instances.
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If you think the anarchists of Spain weren't betrayed and undermined by the Republicans and Stalinists, I don't know what to tell you. Tell yourself what you want but anarchists won't forget next time.
All labor where the workers do not directly and democratically control their output is slavery. The party bureaucracy setting wages, output, managers and destroying the unions and the soviets put exactly wage slavery into practice.
What caused the collapse of theater Soviet union was the internal contradictions of an inherently flawed capitalist system. If the workers had freedom they would have never given it up. But the revolution was betrayed from the start and they never got that freedom.
And yes, leninist/stalinist form of authoritarianism is akin to fascism. It's why anarchists call them red fash. Is that also a new term for you? Look it up someday.
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Willingness to engage outside the echo chamber and in good faith makes you better than them in my book
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It was actually a Trotskyist faction, itself against AES, that led to a breakdown between the Anarchists and Marxists in Spain. The Marxists remained the only supporters of the Anarchists. Seems you did forget.
As for "slavery," by this definition taxes are slavery and public services are slavery. Marx already went over how workers cannot own all of that which they create in Socialism directly, as from a given worker's production needs to be deducted necessary maintenance of administration, social services, and more in Critique of the Gotha Programme. By your definition, Socialism is slavery. Further still, the Soviets were never disbanded, and there were still Unions. Your history is off again.
What "contradictions" do you believe led to the collapse of the Soviet Union? How was the revolution "betrayed?" What "freedoms" did the workers give up? This is all vague and vibes-based.
You still didn't elaborate on how Marxism is "akin to fascism." I'm aware of the term "red-fash," it's a ridiculous term and I linked you a book thoroughly explaining why. I can't force you to read it, nor can I force you to make a coherent point.
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I'd say that's more of an energy consumption and willpower thing than being a "father of Marxism" for the fediverse. Further, @[email protected] would have that title anyways as the lead dev of Lemmy itself. I wouldn't call the Marxist instances "echo chambers," living in Capitalist countries in general are already echo chambers, it's the Marxist communities that challenge the echo chamber.
As a side note, did you read Blackshirts and Reds?
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Your constant insistence that I'm incoherent is acerbic and I have no patience for it.
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Don't know what you're saying about Dessalines.
As for "echo chambers," they don't exist devoid of context. An "echo chamber" mirroring the positions of the status quo upholds it, while one going against the grain disrupts the status quo. They aren't equally "echo-y."
Good on you for starting Blackshirts and Reds, good luck on your exams!
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I'm saying bro is not all that.
They may not be equally echoey but they're still quite echoey and often deafeningly so.
good luck on your exams!
Thanks!
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What kind of diversity of thought are you looking for?
Could you give an example?
Is there an intellectually honest point of view that Donald Trump isn’t a fascist?
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I don't think he's a fascist necessarily, although he is a far-right, authoritarian ultranationalist. So that makes him... oh.
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Yes yes we know the lies told about it. Again, people can go and read on their own about the slaughter of anarchists that happened there.
I didn't call Marxists fascists. I called Lenin's and Stalin's regime red fash.
And I don't act vague, I just don't have the patience to reopen 100 old debates
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"Lies?" It's on Wikipedia, lol. As for Marxism, I genuinely don't know what mythical form of Marxism you think is "real" Marxism in your eyes, again, read Blackshirts and Reds.
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Links to Wikipedia Wikipedia talks about an anarcho syndicalist. Whatever man
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Is db0 left wing? I felt like they lean closer to .world than left.
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And that supports your argument how exactly? Oh no! Humans are flawed and can make weird decisions afternoon massive trauma? Not to be mention 1 man is not sailors. Quickly grasp at the end first excuse to validate your slaughter. As red Emma said at the time, "Trotsky protests too much...."
To anyone still reading, this sort of truth stretching to defend the indefensible is why I don't trust campists
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You're defending a Tsarist that tried to deliberately sabotage the Soviets during a bloody Civil War, and later joined the Tsarist army as a means to kill more Soviets, as "weird decisions after massive trauma?" Won't anyone think of the poor, poor Tsarists, woe are they...
To mirror you: To anyone still reading, this sort of truth stretching to defend the indefensible is why I don’t trust campists
