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Canada PM Mark Carney says old relationship with US 'is over'

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  • twintitans@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

    Maybe they need to stop attacking said gun owners with prohibitive lists when THEY ARE NOT A PROBLEM. Legal hand guns? Not a problem. Were they banned from sale? Yeah. Why? Because it’s easy to sell on TV to mom and jimmy that hey, we’re saving you from gun violence. Gun owners have been targeted, unfairly over and over again as a cheep stunt to get votes. It’s old, it’s bullshit and it’s not acceptable. There are real gangs with illegal guns coming in that need to be stopped. It’s disrespectful to all those who are killed by them every time these guys go on a rant about gun safety and ban another rifle. People “bitch” and “complain” because something of theirs is being taken away under false pretenses.

    Alberta does NOT sweep it “under the rug”. There is a monitored recovery plan with social interventions. It’s a phenomenal program, and it works very well.

    The amount the liberal government spent BEFORE the pandemic was unreal, and during, and after. Now what exactly does Canada have to show for this spent money?

    Mark Carney is one person. A rich one person whom is deep in bed with WEF and Blackrock. Two massive red flags. The really problem is most of his cabinet is made up of the same nut jobs that have cost this country countless investments. Steven Guilbeault in particular, and somehow - like magic - the last ten years of virtue signaling and economic sabotage just goes away.

    We’re different this time, we promise.

    No, they’re not. Just this time he’s richer, has more rich friends, and doesn't have Trudeau in his name.

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    You, and i are not being attacked. Guns aren't a right in canada, they are a privilege. Yes gun violence is an issue. But the way to reduce gun violence is to build a strong social safety net, you want to tackle the root cause? Get rid of the reason people join gangs. Look how effective the war on drugs is, people still use it. Border enforcement will catch some sure, but gang violence will keep happening. The conservatives don't like strong social safety nets so they sell you security theater, just like after 911, it's theater. Talking about money spent? Rebuilding neglected infrastructure takes a lot of money. Kids under 17 get dental and vision care. Cheaper day care those are examples of things that we have to show for it.

    Pp's circle is the same as carney's but at least there will be positive social policies, and instead of getting in bed with trump, we will divest.

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    • allo@sh.itjust.worksA [email protected]

      ok so thats cool and all but how do we join? washington oregon california want in

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      Elect progressives, enact progressive policies and then apply i guess! I'd be happy to have states aligned with our values join canada

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        I hope you're right about who suffers the most, we deserve it, and I hope the rest of the world prospers while we languish in our just desserts.

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        No desserts. Just languish.

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            pls take new england as a new province daddy 👉 👈 🥺

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              This is the worst part (for US), it tooks them decades to build a solid and trusted relationship with the western world, and within 3 month, all of that is gone.

              It's not Canada or Denmark which will suffer the most from-it, but US themselves

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              It's not Canada or Denmark which will suffer the most from-it, but US themselves

              I get what you are saying but at the same time as a Canadian that comes across as more American-centric myopia.

              We are a small country in terms of people with only nominally more people than the state of California spread out over a landmass 1.6% larger than the US. Our energy infrastructure fully connect through our own country and due to American strong arming a lot of our manufacturing industry is not super robust. It's the Goose next to the Eagle. We're tough enough to defend ourselves and make it hurt to attack us but we aren't getting anything out of this fight. For us it's a fight for our lives not a fight we can profit off of. Whatever wounds we take in this fight will soften us up for the regular problems we fight. The forest fires that have become exponentially worse through climate change that have erased entire cities off our map. The healthcare crisis of a mass of retiring boomers needing more care in a system that has constantly under fire from Americanizing rhetoric that has caused disinvestment from an ethically better system. The protectionist rhetoric that comes with conflict which will erode the systems of government and create legal precedent for more autocratic means of operation that will need to be later undone. The pausing of reconciliation efforts with indigenous nations. This conflict, even as it is now, will cause real trackable losses of life and livelihood some of which will not come back.

              Our existence and future as a sovereign nation is threatened but nope "The US will be the real victims of this"? Bloody fucking tonedeaf mate.

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                No desserts. Just languish.

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                Mind your languish.

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                  This is the worst part (for US), it tooks them decades to build a solid and trusted relationship with the western world, and within 3 month, all of that is gone.

                  It's not Canada or Denmark which will suffer the most from-it, but US themselves

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                  To be fair, it really started in 2015 when trump started his first run. His first term definitely brought attention to the rest of the world to ask if we were really this stupid. A second term is just a confirmation.

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                  • spacecowboy@lemmy.caS [email protected]

                    Unfortunately the tools of statecraft aren't all that granular. To make the Trump regime suffer, many Americans will suffer even if they don't support Trump.

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                    Yes, it's unavoidable that we all have to suffer because of his regime. Same deal with the Russian sanctions.

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                    • cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zoneC [email protected]

                      pls take new england as a new province daddy 👉 👈 🥺

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                      And Cascadia too, please.

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