"China is the future, do you agree?"

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So everyone can read and laugh:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Winnie-the-Pooh_in_China

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Gotcha, depicting chinese people as yellow is funny to you.

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Real talk, I take comfort in knowing that the high tech future we were promised at the turn of the millennium isn't dead after all, it's just happening in China

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In many ways, China already has surpassed the US.

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For sure. However, the PRC is still a developing countrt, while the US is a declining Empire. The US has farther to fall and China further to rise, especially in the next 1-2 decades.

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Heh, I think you've just pissed off Welsh/Irish/Scottish people with that sentiment.

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China still has a concentration camp and invaded Tibet. If they keep on doing what they're used to, it will still be bad.

They also support dictatorships like North Korea, and that's also not a good look.

Then there's the whole silencing of Hong Kong, and I don't now enough to say what happened there, so I won't. Just know something did.

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The re-education program in Xinjiang seems to have ended already and fulfilled its stated purpose. Tibet had slavery and was semi-feudalist, while the Dalai Lama owned slaves and was working with the CIA. Life expectancy dramatically improved along with many other metrics like literacy rates once the PLA ended slavery and feudalism. For the DPRK, they maintain trade relations with them, the most sanctioned country on the planet and one of the most heavily bombed. HK was a British Colony to be returned to the PRC, and now most Hong Kong residents would rather be integrated with the Chinese economy.

I think you need to investigate more of these topics if you're going to list them off as points.

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Still hoping for that future that's borderless and red and queer and bold.

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yeah it’s censored because of racism, that’s an amazingly insightful and smart take! you sure showed that dirty racist what-for, i bet they’ll think twice before posting a picture of a cartoon next time. you’re a really good spokesperson for your political beliefs, and you DEFINITELY aren’t coming across like a child right now!

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Do you want to enlighten me about what's funny about depicting a Chinese man as a yellow cartoon bear? Why not a panda? Why specifically a yellow bear?

Why do you think it's censored to begin with?

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Tbh, I was shocked. Much as I'm sympathetic towards China, but I still usually look at it through a lens of realpolitik, like, "Of course they're vying for dominance like everyone else, but at least they're doing it through economic development instead of wars, and it's better if there are two major powers instead of one." Maybe that cynical perspective is more realistic, and maybe XHS users aren't a representative sample of all Chinese people, but still, the fact that so many of the replies were so hopeful and internationalist was genuinely moving to me.

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China hasn't had a war in over 40 years.

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The near future? Yes. Absolutely. The have the best economic and political system so far, and are now building out their military to step into the role of hegemon.

The far future?

Assuming China can crack down on global coal and oil usage and figure out climate change, they'll be paving the way for communism in a couple of generations. If they can successfully solve these issues, crush the capitalist markets, and still maintain their current level of corruption then communism is inevitable by 2100 at the latest.

This will be the last century of kings and ceos. Either the world ends due to climate change and capitalist greed, or humanity prevails through communism. There isn't another option left.

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Well, you're correct that XHS isn't the general population of China, it skews middle-high income, so you aren't getting the full picture. However, from what I've read from many younger Chinese political activists and analysts is that as China is now heavily industrialized, there is a sense of moving out of the over-ambitious optimism of the previous generations to a more grounded, educated, realistic optimism that is genuinely more hopeful as a consequence of its grounding.

China has libs. China has problems. China has struggles. But, by virtue of its position and strategy, the people also take on a generally internationalist character. "Let a hundred flowers bloom," Socialism with Chinese Characteristics is a prediction, more than a description. It's a prediction of Socialism with Ugandan Characteristics, Canadian, Brazilian, etc. That gives a sense of their overall attitude, IMO.

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We'll get there.

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There's little point in interacting with a tankie, ignore and report, and move on.

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The PRC definitely has its problems, but I am especially encouraged by their massive restructuring of their energy grid. I don't think Communism will come by 2100, but maybe 2150 or 2200, as there are going to be Capitalist holdouts for a long time resisting progress.

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You're free to elaborate on the humor of satarizing a Chinese man as a yellow cartoon bear. Calling me a "tankie" for thinking that maybe we shouldn't be using potentially racist caricatures doesn't make much sense to me personally.

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As much as we might criticize the whole, "End of History" idea, I feel like the 90's was the last time Americans had anything like that kind of optimism. There was a feeling that we were entering a new age of international cooperation, and although I was only a child that was something I really believed in. But we soon found new conflicts to be embroiled in a the dream has died and was proven to be foolish and naive, and now everyone across the political spectrum is highly cynical.

I'm sure that there are many cynical people in China too, but I can hardly remember the last time I saw someone who wasn't cynical when it comes to politics. Whether or not it's naive, it hits me on an emotional level.

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