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Valve seems to have quietly rolled out a major upgrade to their Anti-Cheat system and it’s apparently wrecking havoc on cheat providers

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  • E [email protected]

    I've often thought that the cheaters should be simply shadow banned, and only match with other cheaters. Let them play against the other cheaters and see how well they do.

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    I always thought there should be an "unlimited class" in the olympics where you can take anything you want. I want to see wildly drugged up athletes competing with each other.

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    • mr_madafaka@lemmy.mlM [email protected]

      https://www.reddit.com/r/cs2/comments/1ng6opf/1309_major_vac_live_updates_leaving_cheaters/

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      Ha! Get fucked, losers. Cheaters ruin the fun for everyone, so I hope every last one gets permabanned.

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        I always thought there should be an "unlimited class" in the olympics where you can take anything you want. I want to see wildly drugged up athletes competing with each other.

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        Caaaaaarl, that kills people.

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        • B [email protected]

          I can only hope this affects TF2 as well. I used to play competitively and the line between cheater and god-tier is so blurry sometimes, especially with how hard it is to spectate now. The one and only time I was certain someone was cheating was when I tried to rocket jump around a corner and got killed by a prefired airshot from a direct hit, aka they couldn't even see me when they fired and still hit me 50 feet in the air the same instant I came around the corner.

          And of course their team wouldn't kick em because people still think it's impossible to cheat with projectiles 😞

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          It's probably more difficult than you think, Shounic (Youtuber) explained in several of his breakdowns on the bot crisis about how far removed TF2 is compared to simplistic (mechanically) shooters like CS2, making it much harder to create a VACnet style solution.

          It's believed that the update that removed the bots was more of a manual approach.

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          • mr_madafaka@lemmy.mlM [email protected]

            https://www.reddit.com/r/cs2/comments/1ng6opf/1309_major_vac_live_updates_leaving_cheaters/

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            Hypothesis: people who cheat in video games are scum bags in other aspects of life. I wonder if anyone's done a study on that. I feel like the kind of person who has to cheat in video games is a broken sad sack.

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            • mr_madafaka@lemmy.mlM [email protected]

              https://www.reddit.com/r/cs2/comments/1ng6opf/1309_major_vac_live_updates_leaving_cheaters/

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              It's possible that Adwaita for Steam causing VAC issues now. I suddenly started getting VAC warnings on CS2 and it didn't go until disabling Adwaita for Steam.

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              • mr_madafaka@lemmy.mlM [email protected]

                https://www.reddit.com/r/cs2/comments/1ng6opf/1309_major_vac_live_updates_leaving_cheaters/

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                Nice.

                The cheating bastards need to git gud.

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                • J [email protected]

                  Hypothesis: people who cheat in video games are scum bags in other aspects of life. I wonder if anyone's done a study on that. I feel like the kind of person who has to cheat in video games is a broken sad sack.

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                  I will accept this as truth without further examination. It' such selfish, antisocial behavior that there MUST be something wrong with them.

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                    Ha! Get fucked, losers. Cheaters ruin the fun for everyone, so I hope every last one gets permabanned.

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                    You cannot permaban a cheater for the saame reason you shouldn't have death penalty, people need to be able to challenge the decision which should trigger a process

                    As a piece of software, I highly doubt there isn't a single bug in VAC that would cause a false-positive

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                    • mr_madafaka@lemmy.mlM [email protected]

                      https://www.reddit.com/r/cs2/comments/1ng6opf/1309_major_vac_live_updates_leaving_cheaters/

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                      You're not good, you just forgot what it's like to lose.

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                      • mr_madafaka@lemmy.mlM [email protected]

                        https://www.reddit.com/r/cs2/comments/1ng6opf/1309_major_vac_live_updates_leaving_cheaters/

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                        You love to see it.

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                        • O [email protected]

                          I really hope valve can get VAC into a good space so it can be an example of doing anti-cheat well without having to be a rootkit. Looks like we're heading towards that point. Hopefully this change will last

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                          and they need it for the steam deck too. win-win.

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                          • J [email protected]

                            Hypothesis: people who cheat in video games are scum bags in other aspects of life. I wonder if anyone's done a study on that. I feel like the kind of person who has to cheat in video games is a broken sad sack.

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                            It depends if you're only talking about multi-player or including solo too. I see no harm in customizing one's experience with cheats in single player.

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                              You cannot permaban a cheater for the saame reason you shouldn't have death penalty, people need to be able to challenge the decision which should trigger a process

                              As a piece of software, I highly doubt there isn't a single bug in VAC that would cause a false-positive

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                              shadowbanning to cheater-only servers sounds like nice middle ground to me

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                              • J [email protected]

                                Hypothesis: people who cheat in video games are scum bags in other aspects of life. I wonder if anyone's done a study on that. I feel like the kind of person who has to cheat in video games is a broken sad sack.

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                                I used Roblox cheats when I was younger because I was bored.

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                                  You cannot permaban a cheater for the saame reason you shouldn't have death penalty, people need to be able to challenge the decision which should trigger a process

                                  As a piece of software, I highly doubt there isn't a single bug in VAC that would cause a false-positive

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                                  I said cheaters, not suspected cheaters. I know that’s unrealistic, because no anticheat software is perfect, but I still want it.

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                                    John Macdonald is cooking the best fucking server-sided anticheat with all that compute power in Bellevue. Lets see him become a master chef!

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                                    I've been thinking for a while we need more server side stuff. No worries about infringing on the consumers computer then. Hopefully that ends up becoming something good!

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                                    • T [email protected]

                                      You cannot permaban a cheater for the saame reason you shouldn't have death penalty, people need to be able to challenge the decision which should trigger a process

                                      As a piece of software, I highly doubt there isn't a single bug in VAC that would cause a false-positive

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                                      When you suspect someone of being highly dangerous you put them in jail even if they are not convicted yet. And when it turns out they are innocent they are released.

                                      A ban is like jail not like a death sentence ...

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                                      • mugita_sokiovt@discuss.onlineM [email protected]

                                        I'm glad I wouldn't play GTA anyway, even older games, for different reasons.

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                                        What reasons wouldn't you play older ones?

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                                          Hypothesis: people who cheat in video games are scum bags in other aspects of life. I wonder if anyone's done a study on that. I feel like the kind of person who has to cheat in video games is a broken sad sack.

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                                          It really depends on what you think about as cheating. I mod my Bethesda games and Stardew Valley heavily to the point that mod file sizes are way past the game file sizes themselves, but some people consider that as cheating, as I'm not playing the original games, I'm not experiencing the original spirits of them. Some people heavily against this. Is altering games only consider as cheating in online games or in all games?

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