Sam Altman said startups with only $10 million were 'totally hopeless' competing with OpenAI, DeepSeek's disruption says otherwise

[1984@lemmy.today]

This should be its own post. Very interesting. People are not aware of this I think.

[alphane_moon@lemmy.world]

While I tend to avoid conspiracy theory type thinking, the nature of modern social makes it very easy to run astroturfing/botting campaigns. It's reasonable to be suspicious.

[1984@lemmy.today]

The American press seem mostly silent about it... What a shocker.

[speculater@lemmy.world]

I'm just impressed how snappy it was, I wish he had the ability to let it listen longer without responding right away though.

[blacklazor@fedia.io]

80% time she's just a bot, but there are these flashes of brilliance that makes me think we're closer to general purpose intelligence than we think

And this is just one dude using commercially available tooling. Well funded company could do infinitely better, if they were willing to give up some of the political correctness when training the model

EDIT: When he removed the word filter last time it got really hilarious quickly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0g-I_1jBJXM

[dragontypewyvern@midwest.social]

Bot campaigns seem pretty cheap when your business is making chat bots

[myopinion@lemm.ee]

Sounds like something a rapist would say.

[dragontypewyvern@midwest.social]

What I am 100% certain of, because humanity is terrible, is that if a true AI is created that fact will be ignored for being inconvenient to profit seeking.

[homesweethomemrl@lemmy.world]

i'll allow it.

[homesweethomemrl@lemmy.world]

[dragontypewyvern@midwest.social]

I'm sure Altman forcing out all the actual brains on the board of OpenAI, like Chief Research Scientist https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilya_Sutskever, has nothing to do this or their rapidly declining lead in the field.

[damage@feddit.it]

You say that like Hubbard wasn't brilliant, morals notwithstanding

[paraphrand@lemmy.world]

I find the online cheerleading for AI and AGI strange. It feels like a frothing mob rooting for the unleashing of a monster at times.

[shittybeatlesfcpres@lemmy.world]

It’s easy to write a bot. You just ask ChatGPT DeepSeek for the code.

[allonzee@lemmy.world]

Id say their lead is over.

Im enjoying all the capitalist oligarchs losing their minds over Deepseek destroying the piles of money they were already counting in their heads.

[avidamoeba@lemmy.ca]

but doesn't DeepSeek's ability to harness less lower quality processors thereby allow companies like NVIDIA and OPENAI to reconfigure expanding their infrastructure's abilities to push even further faster?

Not that much if the problem is NP-hard and they were already hitting against the asymptote.

[imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works]

Or if you have access to click farm type propoganda resources

[yerbouti@sh.itjust.works]

The fact that you can run it locally with good perfomance on 4+ years old machine (an M1 Max for example), is not exactly a good news for them. I think deepseek just made their 500 billion investment project, which was already absurd, incredibly stupid. I'm gonna say it again, the GAFAM economy is based on a whole lot of nothing. Now more then even, we can the web back and destroy their system. Fuck the tech-bros and their oligarch friend.

[shittybeatlesfcpres@lemmy.world]

I kind of suspect this is as much about A.I. progress hitting a wall as anything else. It doesn’t seem like any of the LLMs are improving much between versions anymore. The U.S. companies were just throwing more compute (and money/electricity) at the problem and seeing small gains but it’ll be awhile before the next breakthrough.

Kind of like self-driving cars during their hype cycle. They felt tantalizingly close 10 years ago or so but then progress stalled and it’s been a slow grind ever since.

[demesisx@infosec.pub]

The reason for the correction is that the “smart money” that breathlessly invested billions on the assumption that CUDAis absolutely required for a good AI model is suddenly looking very incorrect.

I had been predicting that AMD would make inroads with their OpenCL but this news is even better. Reportedly, DeepSeek doesn’t even necessarily require the use of either OpenCL or CUDA.