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Netherlands: 18 year old Ryan al-Najjar was tied up, beaten, and drowned by her father and brothers for being too Westernized

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  • F [email protected]

    Lmao funny how fascist pos suddenly care about women's right when it comes to shitting on brown people

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    Who exactly is the “fascist pos” here?

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    • V [email protected]

      It is fundamentalist religion in general that puts women at risk.

      Yeah, I get it, fundamentalists are terrible.

      But this one was a Muslim and leftists, for some reason, like to platform Islam while this bullshit happens.

      Islam, and pretty much every other religion, is an absolute plague on humanity.

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      Your use of the term “leftist” betrays your bias.

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      • jackbydev@programming.devJ [email protected]

        But abortion? Can't do that, you're killing a child!

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        That child might conform! Only when they don't bow to the powers that want to use them is it ok to kill them!

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          Going by this article...

          https://nltimes.nl/2025/06/30/brothers-still-deny-involvement-18-year-old-sisters-honor-killing

          ...I would speculate that by sending the letter, Khaled al-Najjar attempts to free his sons of complicity in the crime. Whether they are or aren't complicit, is for the court to determine. Getting the man back from Syria would be a priority for the court, but given the situation in Syria, this might be difficult to arrange.

          The court seems to consider the brothers either plausibly complicit or a flight risk and decided not to free them on bail.

          The brothers’ lawyers requested that they be released from pre-trial custody. They have been detained for almost 13 months. Both insist that they “had nothing to do” with their sister’s murder. But the court ruled that they’ll stay in custody until the next hearing in September.

          ...and...

          But the OM [prosecution] believes that the father enlisted his sons to pick Ryan up, drive her to a remote location, and throw her weighted body into the water. According to the OM, the three men killed Ryan because she behaved too Western and “shamed” her family.

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          According to the OM, the three men killed Ryan because she behaved too Western and “shamed” her family.

          Traveled to a Western country instead of any of the Muslim countries around Syria to apply for asylum and gets mad that the culture around them might affect them.

          Makes sense

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          • V [email protected]

            Islam is a plague.

            I dont understand why leftists try and platform this terrible religion.

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            Religion* is a plague.

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              It’s “prerogative”, not “pejorative”.

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              • doxxx@lemmy.caD [email protected]

                Your use of the term “leftist” betrays your bias.

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                Not sure why, its what I use to describe myself and my friends in a broad sense.

                Am I not allowed to criticize islam? Do I hand in my progressive card or something?

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                • V [email protected]

                  Not sure why, its what I use to describe myself and my friends in a broad sense.

                  Am I not allowed to criticize islam? Do I hand in my progressive card or something?

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                  I often see the term leftist thrown around by right wing commentators like it’s a bad thing.

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                  • anonomouswolf@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                    A Syrian refugee who fled to the Netherlands has reportedly confessed to murdering his 18-year-old daughter and dumping her body in a canal before fleeing the country in an apparent admission note sent to a Dutch newspaper.

                    Father-of-nine Khaled al-Najjar, 52, wrote in an email sent to De Telegraaf that he had killed his 18-year-old daughter Ryan al-Najjar, urging the publication to report 'I am the one who killed'.

                    The confession did not specify exactly why he had decided to murder his daughter, with al-Najjar writing only that he was 'very angry with her', adding: 'The reason is between me and the judge. I will read that in court'.

                    But neighbours and friends suspect Ryan's death came as the result of an honour killing, with one claiming they had previously sheltered her when she had fled the family home in fear of retribution from her father.

                    Requesting anonymity to prevent any backlash, they told De Telegraaf that Ryan had a Dutch boyfriend, wanted to stop wearing a headscarf and had been beaten by her father who disagreed with her adoption of a Western lifestyle.

                    Source:

                    1. https://nltimes.nl/2025/06/30/brothers-still-deny-involvement-18-year-old-sisters-honor-killing

                    2. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13501735/Syrian-refugee-murders-Westernised-daughter-18-honour-killing-dumps-canal-started-dating-local-Dutch-boy-wanted-stop-wearing-headscarf.html

                    3. https://www.atheistrepublic.com/news/fatal-traditions-shocking-honor-killing-netherlands

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                    The whole idea of religion is outdated. Abrahamic religions all share a similar problem. The real issue arises when a religion meets a particular culture.

                    No normal culture should/would ever allow this kind of thing to happen. Fundamentalist Islamic culture is the most harmful plague of its kind. It's miles ahead of other any other problematic religious cultures, and it's significant enough to be concerned.

                    It's something we should actively denounce and criticize, and it's not racist or disrespectful to other cultures to do so.

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                    • V [email protected]

                      Islam is a plague.

                      I dont understand why leftists try and platform this terrible religion.

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                      Your framing is off. Leftists don't platform any religion. They simply don't discriminate on the basis of religion. Again, on the basis of any religion.

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                      • V [email protected]

                        Oh yeah, im very aware.

                        But this article is about Islam, so im going to talk about Islam.

                        Weird how that works huh?

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                        You can't do that when trying to make a point about something like religion. You are trying to set rules for the argument to go in your favor.

                        The evil of Islam and the evil of Christianity are one in the same. The same can be said for any religion.

                        This isn't your world. You aren't the main character. You don't get to dictate the rules of an argument and truth. If you want to blame 1 religion for it's evil, then blame all of them.

                        Also I don't think leftists support these actions. They support people's rights to religious freedoms. It's up to people themselves to know not to kill.
                        This poor woman would've been killed even if her folks were Christian. They were mentally unstable to have thought this was a good thing.

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                        • doxxx@lemmy.caD [email protected]

                          I often see the term leftist thrown around by right wing commentators like it’s a bad thing.

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                          Where did I imply being a leftist was bad?

                          I'm just perpetually confused as to why people on the left side of the spectrum platform Islam while it kills women and persecutes gay people🤷‍♂️

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                          • G [email protected]

                            It has less to do with religion and more to do with culture

                            No. It's far right religious extremism....

                            You're taking the actions of the most extreme 0.001% and using a label that applies to literally billions of people...

                            It's hard to believe someone cant logically understand that

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                            You don't know jack shit about Islam lol. Here in India we aren't even an Islamic country yet honour killings by Muslims are a thing.

                            There is a reason Islam is the most hated religion on the planet. Western liberals are a plague that love a religion that encourages murder as punishment. They live in their fantasy world where they think Christianity is the worst. No wonder they're the joke of this century.

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                            • V [email protected]

                              Where did I imply being a leftist was bad?

                              I'm just perpetually confused as to why people on the left side of the spectrum platform Islam while it kills women and persecutes gay people🤷‍♂️

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                              You singled out leftists as doing something bad, ergo leftists are bad. Sorry, a bit of a knee jerk reaction on my part.

                              I guess it’s probably because leftists tend to promote religious tolerance even where it isn’t deserved (imo).

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                              • N [email protected]

                                The whole idea of religion is outdated. Abrahamic religions all share a similar problem. The real issue arises when a religion meets a particular culture.

                                No normal culture should/would ever allow this kind of thing to happen. Fundamentalist Islamic culture is the most harmful plague of its kind. It's miles ahead of other any other problematic religious cultures, and it's significant enough to be concerned.

                                It's something we should actively denounce and criticize, and it's not racist or disrespectful to other cultures to do so.

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                                Someone paid no attention to religious fundamentalist in history. Religion is just a form of division. No different than race, age, class, or sexuality. If there's a religion (or any other kind of group) they've killed ppl for not conforming

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                                • S [email protected]

                                  You can't do that when trying to make a point about something like religion. You are trying to set rules for the argument to go in your favor.

                                  The evil of Islam and the evil of Christianity are one in the same. The same can be said for any religion.

                                  This isn't your world. You aren't the main character. You don't get to dictate the rules of an argument and truth. If you want to blame 1 religion for it's evil, then blame all of them.

                                  Also I don't think leftists support these actions. They support people's rights to religious freedoms. It's up to people themselves to know not to kill.
                                  This poor woman would've been killed even if her folks were Christian. They were mentally unstable to have thought this was a good thing.

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                                  #127

                                  Well yeah, id imagine leftists dont support these actions.

                                  Leftists dont support murder like the right does.

                                  I'm not talking about the cess pit that is Christianity and its kid diddling because this article isnt about Christianity.

                                  I'm speaking about Islam and its woman-killing because this article is about Islam and its woman-killing.

                                  Idk what to tell you.

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                                  • V [email protected]

                                    It's not fascist to wonder why leftists platform this religion while bullshit like this happens.

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                                    The VAST majority of Muslims are just regular, kind people who don't murder their families.

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                                    • anonomouswolf@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                                      A Syrian refugee who fled to the Netherlands has reportedly confessed to murdering his 18-year-old daughter and dumping her body in a canal before fleeing the country in an apparent admission note sent to a Dutch newspaper.

                                      Father-of-nine Khaled al-Najjar, 52, wrote in an email sent to De Telegraaf that he had killed his 18-year-old daughter Ryan al-Najjar, urging the publication to report 'I am the one who killed'.

                                      The confession did not specify exactly why he had decided to murder his daughter, with al-Najjar writing only that he was 'very angry with her', adding: 'The reason is between me and the judge. I will read that in court'.

                                      But neighbours and friends suspect Ryan's death came as the result of an honour killing, with one claiming they had previously sheltered her when she had fled the family home in fear of retribution from her father.

                                      Requesting anonymity to prevent any backlash, they told De Telegraaf that Ryan had a Dutch boyfriend, wanted to stop wearing a headscarf and had been beaten by her father who disagreed with her adoption of a Western lifestyle.

                                      Source:

                                      1. https://nltimes.nl/2025/06/30/brothers-still-deny-involvement-18-year-old-sisters-honor-killing

                                      2. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13501735/Syrian-refugee-murders-Westernised-daughter-18-honour-killing-dumps-canal-started-dating-local-Dutch-boy-wanted-stop-wearing-headscarf.html

                                      3. https://www.atheistrepublic.com/news/fatal-traditions-shocking-honor-killing-netherlands

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                                      Killing a Muslim kid is Western, wtf?

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                                      • B [email protected]

                                        What is whataboutism, Alex?

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                                        Whataboutism is a lateral move. What I suggested was a zoom-out.

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                                          The whole idea of religion is outdated. Abrahamic religions all share a similar problem. The real issue arises when a religion meets a particular culture.

                                          No normal culture should/would ever allow this kind of thing to happen. Fundamentalist Islamic culture is the most harmful plague of its kind. It's miles ahead of other any other problematic religious cultures, and it's significant enough to be concerned.

                                          It's something we should actively denounce and criticize, and it's not racist or disrespectful to other cultures to do so.

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                                          Which occupied territories are Muslim countries presently starving and/or bombing?

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