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      I live in a country with a strict outdoor smoking ban and I love it.

      There are dedicated smoking areas for people to smoke outdoors, but they are really small and cramped with smokers.

      It’s actually really nice, you never see or smell people smoking unless you wonder too close to the designated smoking areas which are often really out of the way.

      The streets are not really clean here, but at least it’s not cigarette butts. Even things like vapes need to be smoked in a designated area, but sometimes people do it on the street anyway.

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        For beaches, and parks, and hiking trails, and places where smoking is usually already banned (at least here), sure.

        Standing outside my companies building and taking my smoke break should be fair game.

        There are no kids around a random office building at 1:30pm on a Tuesday.

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          Anybody who thinks they are breathing clean air just because they banned smoking is kidding themselves. At least the cigarette makes the smoker happy and causes minimal damage to passersby when smoked outside—meanwhile the massive air pollution that companies emit is shortening lifespans of every breather across the globe.

          Sure, don’t smoke inside, whatever, but the criminalization and exclusion of addictive behavior is bullshit, in my opinion, especially when it comes in the form of pearl clutching “for the children”.

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            Shame it doesn't limit outside smoking in designated areas only. Still an unexpected win, it's good when most other laws voted recently were just dangerous anti science shit.

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              Europeans should get a new hobby, smoking is gross and you smell like burnt shit

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                Anybody who thinks they are breathing clean air just because they banned smoking is kidding themselves. At least the cigarette makes the smoker happy and causes minimal damage to passersby when smoked outside—meanwhile the massive air pollution that companies emit is shortening lifespans of every breather across the globe.

                Sure, don’t smoke inside, whatever, but the criminalization and exclusion of addictive behavior is bullshit, in my opinion, especially when it comes in the form of pearl clutching “for the children”.

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                this is like the only thing a government has done 'for the children' that actually benefits anyone at all

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                • weirdgoespro@lemmy.dbzer0.comW [email protected]

                  Anybody who thinks they are breathing clean air just because they banned smoking is kidding themselves. At least the cigarette makes the smoker happy and causes minimal damage to passersby when smoked outside—meanwhile the massive air pollution that companies emit is shortening lifespans of every breather across the globe.

                  Sure, don’t smoke inside, whatever, but the criminalization and exclusion of addictive behavior is bullshit, in my opinion, especially when it comes in the form of pearl clutching “for the children”.

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                  Let's do both.

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                    Good i hope more countries adopt this. Türkiye is terrible for this, lovely country and people but there are smokers almost everywhere.

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                      “To protect children” is a stupid reason, but banning smoking anywhere outside of your own home, or spaces expressly dedicated to it, on the other hand, is how it should always have been.

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                      • weirdgoespro@lemmy.dbzer0.comW [email protected]

                        Anybody who thinks they are breathing clean air just because they banned smoking is kidding themselves. At least the cigarette makes the smoker happy and causes minimal damage to passersby when smoked outside—meanwhile the massive air pollution that companies emit is shortening lifespans of every breather across the globe.

                        Sure, don’t smoke inside, whatever, but the criminalization and exclusion of addictive behavior is bullshit, in my opinion, especially when it comes in the form of pearl clutching “for the children”.

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                        Most restaurants in France have outdoor seating. Finally can eat without smelling that foul shit.

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                          Anybody who thinks they are breathing clean air just because they banned smoking is kidding themselves. At least the cigarette makes the smoker happy and causes minimal damage to passersby when smoked outside—meanwhile the massive air pollution that companies emit is shortening lifespans of every breather across the globe.

                          Sure, don’t smoke inside, whatever, but the criminalization and exclusion of addictive behavior is bullshit, in my opinion, especially when it comes in the form of pearl clutching “for the children”.

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                          Would be if asshole that smoke weren't also promoting other harmfull chemicals as-well but hey, we can get to those next bucko.

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                            We've learned as a species that banning people from having bad things doesnt work since other bad people will make their own knockoffs and sell them, so we make using said bad things as PAINFULL as possible to protect everyone else. Win-win go fuck yourselves smoking retards.

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                              Banning children seems like it would be more effective.

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                                Seems like another reason for the French to start a pointless, nationwide riot... Again...

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                                  Would be if asshole that smoke weren't also promoting other harmfull chemicals as-well but hey, we can get to those next bucko.

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                                  So where do you fall on the natural tobacco brands?

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                                    Reasoning aside, i agree that it shouldn’t be permitted outside one’s home

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                                      Dang, France is really about to take away the one thing that the USA has always been ahead of them on.

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                                        You could say smoking is one of the most human activities ever. Does nothing but actively harm and potentially kill everything around you. Just what we're the best at.

                                        But seriously now. Can we speed up smoking bans? Like, everywhere?

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                                          The prolific smoking in France really hits home for me when I was subjected to a cloud of smoke on a train platform. I can’t remember the last time my personal space was so violated waiting for a train.

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