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France to ban smoking outdoors in most places to protect children

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  • weirdgoespro@lemmy.dbzer0.comW [email protected]

    Anybody who thinks they are breathing clean air just because they banned smoking is kidding themselves. At least the cigarette makes the smoker happy and causes minimal damage to passersby when smoked outside—meanwhile the massive air pollution that companies emit is shortening lifespans of every breather across the globe.

    Sure, don’t smoke inside, whatever, but the criminalization and exclusion of addictive behavior is bullshit, in my opinion, especially when it comes in the form of pearl clutching “for the children”.

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    Just because it doesn’t solve the whole problem, doesn’t mean it’s not a good step forward.

    I’m really encouraged that except for regressives in the us, the world seems to finally be turning toward renewable energy, EVs, high speed rail. Even in the US, cities are starting to build transit! There’s a couple more big steps. If we keep taking steps it will turn into moving forward!

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      France just went up a few points in my estimation

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        Sure, as long as you’re not inflicting it on people trying to get in and out of the building.

        Be aware that smoking has a very strong smell that you may not be entirely aware of since you’re around it all the time, plus you’re (hopefully) not asthmatic. You may be surprised how far away that should be

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        I usually hit a weed vape which has a much milder smell and less irritants (I make my own carts using live resin and pyur thinner, which is about the cleanest Liquidizer you can get.)

        That being said I usually park my car across the lot from the building, and blow it out the window.

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          I love how everyone supporting this just assumes you'll still be able to smoke at your own home when it doesn't saying anything of the sort. It explicitly states 'where children COULD be present'. This is literally everywhere short of some BDSM dungeon. This is basically going to make the population choose between smoking and having kids.

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          This is basically going to make the population choose between smoking and having kids.

          Hell I'd start smoking again.

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            I thought everyone in France smoked, including the kids, no?

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              Whether its actually enforced or not will be the question. I went to Disneyland Paris 7 years ago, there were signs everywhere saying smoke only in designated areas but there were people smoking all over and none of the staff seemed to care.

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                I thought everyone in France smoked, including the kids, no?

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                I gave mine nicotine patch from age 5.

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                  I love how everyone supporting this just assumes you'll still be able to smoke at your own home when it doesn't saying anything of the sort. It explicitly states 'where children COULD be present'. This is literally everywhere short of some BDSM dungeon. This is basically going to make the population choose between smoking and having kids.

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                  Yeah don't smoke near your kids. It's not that hard.

                  They're also making the population choose between drinking and driving.

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                    GOOD point. They shouldn't ban cigarettes until everything else bad is also banned.

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                    They shouldn't ban cigarettes.

                    They should ban phillip morris and co who manifacture even more harmful tabacco to turn everybody into an addict.

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                      You could say smoking is one of the most human activities ever. Does nothing but actively harm and potentially kill everything around you. Just what we're the best at.

                      But seriously now. Can we speed up smoking bans? Like, everywhere?

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                      Yeah prohibition is famous for working very well and not have any side effect.

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                        But seriously now. Can we speed up smoking bans? Like, everywhere?

                        Some European countries, including mine, has decided to raise the smoking age by 1 every year, essentially banning the next generation from smoking. Not really rapid or speeding up, but future is looking good

                        There was a slight problem where some people were allowed to smoke for portion of the year after birthday and before the age increase, for every year

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                        Anything but prevent phillip morris from selling their shit huh?

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                          LOL like here in Montreal I see people smoking right next to the "No smoking within 3 meters" or whatever sign.

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                            I like these laws but also I want to smoke in some places. I'd love a return of places like cigar lounges and whisky bars

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                              GOOD point. They shouldn't ban cigarettes until everything else bad is also banned.

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                              There's always one. Always fucking one.

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                                Yeah don't smoke near your kids. It's not that hard.

                                They're also making the population choose between drinking and driving.

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                                No they're not. Do they outlaw drinking everywhere children might one day walk through.

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                                  No they're not. Do they outlaw drinking everywhere children might one day walk through.

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                                  Mind your ankles. The slopes around here are slippery.

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                                    Which actually sounds fair. Kids do not choose to be born and do not need to inhale smoke because parents are addicted to smoking

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                                    Giving people the expectation of clean air and fresh water is far too liberal of a concept these days.

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                                      I thought everyone in France smoked, including the kids, no?

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                                      all the more reason. what's the point of banning something if no one's doing it

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                                        To protect children, meanwhile the soil is filled with cancer-inducing products pumped away illegally by big chemistry plants. In belgium and netherlands we can barely eat our own produce thanks to this. When are we gonna ban them??

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                                        yeah also ban those... how does all that affect this exactly?

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                                          But seriously now. Can we speed up smoking bans? Like, everywhere?

                                          Some European countries, including mine, has decided to raise the smoking age by 1 every year, essentially banning the next generation from smoking. Not really rapid or speeding up, but future is looking good

                                          There was a slight problem where some people were allowed to smoke for portion of the year after birthday and before the age increase, for every year

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                                          What country is it? I always wanted this for mine.

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