US presented Ukraine with a document to access minerals but offered almost nothing
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I understand it's not as simple as a personal one-on-one relationship... I was just remarking that it gives me the same feeling as if it was. Much of what's happening right now feels very personal to me, even though I know it isn't... when I find myself worrying about my loved ones and their futures, for example, I take it very personally what Trump's doing.
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You said it yourself: given
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Wait, so you're blaming NATO for the current situation? Oh boy. I'm done here.
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Gave
If english is not your first language you might want to check out the definition of that word.
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Yeah leave him, he's just spewing kremlin propaganda.
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I just wanna say thanks for the dialog. I really appreciate your helping me understand and expanding on my thoughts.
Hope you’re well, G.
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You’re implying that the military aid was “given”, as in: without expectation of repayment?
Yeah, I thought the US saw this as a way to hurt Russia. Isn’t that what we were supposed to be getting out of the deal? Not fucking mineral wealth.
Though, I still don’t think it’s so preposterous for the US to ask for some sort of repayment, for lack of a better word. Just not what the Trump administration is trying to do right now. What they’re asking for is far too consequential.
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Trump is only capable of quid pro quos when it comes to... Well... Everything he does, I guess. He has no friends, and no allies... Only people he takes from, and in return they get something that was never his to begin with.
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Repayment is not at all what this is about. We are talking about a man who was impeached over demanding Zelenskyy provide political dirt on his opponent in exchange for not disrupting aid shipments.
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Spoiler alert: it won't
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It is a person doing it. Just happens to be running the country.
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Unfortunately, a lot of people in that country support him, so he's not alone.
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The agreement was performative. It was always meant to “prove” that Ukraine was not interested in peace, and a reason that Trump is the only one who can “negotiate” on Ukraines behalf.
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thats why the billionaires figured out if your worn down and tired you arnt willing to engage in class war.
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additionally this allows TRUMP To absolve russia of its crimes well.
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as soon as you see a whole essay , i would just ignore it.
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You only offer such a one sided bad faith deal if you are truly an idiot or if the whole point is to make a show of them refusing the deal. Israel does this to Palestinians all the time for makreting purposes, as another example. The problem with trump is that we dont know if he is truly that stupid or if he has a separate malign intent in doing this. My money is on malign intent.
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That last part I fully agree with but very obviously enriching already very rich people at the cost of your child's life (versus for example keeping oil prices low for the average Joe hidden behind a war of being the good guy aka gulf war 1).
I just don't see it happening. I can't see the average US soldier and especially their parents rallying around "they broke our contract!".
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I mean.... How many bags of onions are we talking here?
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They are going to have to. But the western rules based order is as sickly there as it is everywhere else. Inconvenient laws are just ignored these days by European governments too, so it appears to be just a matter of time. (I hope I'm wrong, for what thats worth)
