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Would you become romantically involved with someone with vastly different religious views?

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  • F [email protected]

    Atheist, married to a Buddhist. He prays daily and has his rituals.

    Made it clear from the start that I'm ok with religion as long as they don't try to convert me or harm others.

    Aside some dietary requirements, it works quite well. Married for 9 years now.

    This works quite well for us, but results and experience may differ based on religion, patience and personal beliefs. I imagine I might have a hard time dating a religious zealot though.

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    Same here. I am not interested in religion (so not even really atheist), wife is Buddhist doing Buddhist things. Married for 40 years this year, and it's not an issue.

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      #42

      During the pandemic, I dated/isolated with a Unitarian. I grew up catholic and I love rituals, so it was a nice service to take part in online. They also organized a regular lunch program for people in the area who had recently been kicked out of the shelter due to the pandemic. I made about 200 lunches a week and they delivered in total about 1500 weekly, along with homemade masks (early pandemic) and bottles of hand sanitizer.

      It was a really lovely and non theistic way to take part in the good about religion. Religious humanism sounds similar.

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      • F [email protected]

        Title. Interested to see the response from different religions

        Edit: Stating your religion would be appreciated. Lack of religion counts for the purpose of this question. Also let's not downvote people for differing religions, all voices are welcome here. If no; why?

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        Yeah absolutely. I'm not religious per se but vaguely spiritual and I get along fine with religious people as long as they don't force it on others. In fact I like hearing about other perspectives so it could even be something drawing me in.

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          #44

          You know that non-abrahamic religions exist, right?

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          • F [email protected]

            Title. Interested to see the response from different religions

            Edit: Stating your religion would be appreciated. Lack of religion counts for the purpose of this question. Also let's not downvote people for differing religions, all voices are welcome here. If no; why?

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            I don't understand your question.

            If you are romantically involved, you won't mind religion.
            If you mind religion, you won't get romantically involved.

            Never heard of a situation where someone says I fell in love with a person despite absolutely not wanting to accept their religion or religiousness. Seems ridiculous.

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              Title. Interested to see the response from different religions

              Edit: Stating your religion would be appreciated. Lack of religion counts for the purpose of this question. Also let's not downvote people for differing religions, all voices are welcome here. If no; why?

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              As long as they don't try to convert me, yes.

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                Yea I kinda get the same feeling. Although for a lot of people their religion does not preclude the acceptation/understanding of a physical world, it's a more of set of rites that they inherited and that's part of their identity. There's plenty of religious people who are scientists. For some, I imagine it may be difficult to reconcile.

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                I know that there are religious scientists and I think humans often compartmentalize beliefs in such a way that their belief about the supernatural doesn't affect their assessment of real-world situations. I'll even go further and say that often it seems like their belief affects their behavior much less than it logically ought to, with some (but not all) people who apparently sincerely believe in an all-seeing God and an afterlife still acting just like atheists in relevant situations. In this context, the fanatics are sometimes technically the more rational ones - I disagree with their premises, but their actions make sense if those premises are considered true.

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                • F [email protected]

                  I don't understand your question.

                  If you are romantically involved, you won't mind religion.
                  If you mind religion, you won't get romantically involved.

                  Never heard of a situation where someone says I fell in love with a person despite absolutely not wanting to accept their religion or religiousness. Seems ridiculous.

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                  I 100% know people who never discussed their religion/culture before starting to date and then refused to address their obvious religious/cultural differences for way to long. I live in a major city in the US so we have tons of people from all sorts of backgrounds. Some people I know don't want to bring up their religious/cultural beliefs until they know the person a bit better but by then they are in deep and don't want to leave despite the glaring differences.

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                    Would you turn someone down for believing in heaven/hell/etc alone?

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                    #49

                    That's potentially included in wishy-washy christianity. The important part is how they act on it. Though it certainly mystifies me how you can believe in that stuff and then act as if it doesn't, but that's kinda how people roll in my parts ...

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                    • appayipyip@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                      I 100% know people who never discussed their religion/culture before starting to date and then refused to address their obvious religious/cultural differences for way to long. I live in a major city in the US so we have tons of people from all sorts of backgrounds. Some people I know don't want to bring up their religious/cultural beliefs until they know the person a bit better but by then they are in deep and don't want to leave despite the glaring differences.

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                      Well, that means at some point you either accept their religion and keep being romantically involved, or you can't accept their religion and stop being romantically involved. It might be a temporary situation as you described, but nothing that can last in that scenario long term.

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                      • A [email protected]

                        I know that there are religious scientists and I think humans often compartmentalize beliefs in such a way that their belief about the supernatural doesn't affect their assessment of real-world situations. I'll even go further and say that often it seems like their belief affects their behavior much less than it logically ought to, with some (but not all) people who apparently sincerely believe in an all-seeing God and an afterlife still acting just like atheists in relevant situations. In this context, the fanatics are sometimes technically the more rational ones - I disagree with their premises, but their actions make sense if those premises are considered true.

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                        It's certainly weird how many people say that they believe and then just ... don't do anything that their belief says they should do.

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                        • cows_are_underrated@feddit.orgC [email protected]

                          Probably not, but that entirely depends on what Religion is for Them. If Religion is only something that they themselves belief in and practice I dont really have a problem with it. If they however use their religious views to suppress others (e.g. trying to talk someone out of having an abortion because "pro life") that's an absolute no go for myself.

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                          A very important and good distinction.

                          Fully agree, also happy cake day.

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                          • F [email protected]

                            Title. Interested to see the response from different religions

                            Edit: Stating your religion would be appreciated. Lack of religion counts for the purpose of this question. Also let's not downvote people for differing religions, all voices are welcome here. If no; why?

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                            Atheist here. Married a Christian who was into missions, taught Sunday school, etc...

                            Love is love and we don't choose who we fall in love with.

                            I never once tried to convert her, or call out her beliefs. But over time (she was from a small religious (mennonite) town) she came to see on her own how the indoctrination was just a cover for a lot of evil shit that went down in the church, and in its name.

                            She is no longer Christian, and veers towards agnosticism, but when pressed would say she is now more aligned with animism, or the idea that nature is the only 'face' of a god that is not a conscious being, but is just the culmination of all the processes in nature.

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                            • F [email protected]

                              Title. Interested to see the response from different religions

                              Edit: Stating your religion would be appreciated. Lack of religion counts for the purpose of this question. Also let's not downvote people for differing religions, all voices are welcome here. If no; why?

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                              I find the nutty prosletysing religious folks marginally more bearable than the militant positivists and atheists who can't stop from bringing up their belief that free will is an illusion and we should all be hedonists, or that transcindentalism is an illogical lie (maybe bitter memories here).

                              Both infinitely more bearable than the exclusionary and persecutionary religious extremists.

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                                Atheist. In general I don't have a problem with religion, as long as it doesn't get uncomfortable. By that I mean stuff like forcing or forbidding me to do stuff. Not believing in basic science is a hard no as well.

                                But I feel like that's a problem that only part of the world has. Christianity in the U.S is a fucking cult. I don't think I could date anyone from that hardcore believe system. I'm from germany andI am yet to meet a christian that believe in the bullshit parts. Like believing in what the bible says alone is fucking weird to me and pretty much novody exeptfor hardcores does that here.

                                So I'd say for methe line is at "cult" level

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                                "Not believing in basic science" should be complete turnoff for anyone ngl.

                                Imagine your life partner saying if they have any kids they don't want to vaccinate them cause autistic people go to hell or some bs.

                                Also for Christianity in the US thing.
                                I am a pretty religious Muslim (maturidi) and lived in Iraq before. I still find US sects like Mormonism too extreme for even being roommates let alone marrying, despite being another Abrahamic religion.

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                                  Title. Interested to see the response from different religions

                                  Edit: Stating your religion would be appreciated. Lack of religion counts for the purpose of this question. Also let's not downvote people for differing religions, all voices are welcome here. If no; why?

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                                  I won't get romantically involved with anyone who deeply believes and allows religion, especially organized religion, to drive their lives.

                                  I was raised Catholic. I have seen too many people use their religion to shirk responsibility for their evils.

                                  Washington State mandatory reporter law changes are a great example. In the US it varies by state but in general, people in trusted positions like teachers, police officers, medical professionals, and counselors are required to report child abuse. Priests have had a special exception, even if they were acting as teachers or counselors. Last month, Washington removed the special exception for priests. The Catholic Church is now sueing to keep the right for priests to keep child abuse secret. Ponder that, these people who would put their magical ceremonies over the health, safety, even lives of children. What is the point of that religion? Because it sure isn't about helping people live good lives.

                                  And Jesus said, "Let the children alone, and do not hinder them from coming to Me; for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these ... unless they're being abused and you wait until you're in the special room with me, chant some special words, and then tell me. Then fuck'em. No, literally, we'll keep the pedophilia on the down low because the ceremony is more important than the kids".

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                                    Title. Interested to see the response from different religions

                                    Edit: Stating your religion would be appreciated. Lack of religion counts for the purpose of this question. Also let's not downvote people for differing religions, all voices are welcome here. If no; why?

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                                    Hard no.

                                    The last thing I need is the wife pestering me constantly to go to church.

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                                      Title. Interested to see the response from different religions

                                      Edit: Stating your religion would be appreciated. Lack of religion counts for the purpose of this question. Also let's not downvote people for differing religions, all voices are welcome here. If no; why?

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                                      Yes, if their core beliefs are the same. Kindness, compassion, generosity, etc.

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                                        My therapist once told me he believed that aliens had been in communication with the US government since the Reagan administration and I had to think about how I wanted to react to that for a little bit. He was an incredibly helpful therapist, but I considered that fucking nuts. I totally agree that aliens likely exist in some fashion, just as a result of probability, but I don’t think they’re here or in secret communication with humans. My therapist thinking they were made me doubt his judgment in other areas. In the end, I decided that he could have a blind spot about aliens and still be an effective therapist.

                                        I’m not religious, and though I absolutely respect and am almost jealous of the ritual/communal aspect of religion, I honestly think people who really believe in it are a bit deluded, which feels pretty judgmental and shitty of me. My attitude towards religious people has become a lot more open over time though- I was a stereotypical 15 year old atheist shithead in my catholic high school- so I can imagine that eventually I won’t feel at all condescending about it.

                                        I don’t think I would have been at all bothered if my therapist was religious (depending on the religion), but I would not be able to be in a relationship with someone who was. Weirdly, I think I’d be more accepting of a partner believing in aliens. I guess I care more about a shared understanding of the universe with a partner and more about critical thinking skills from a therapist, lol.

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                                        When it comes to a partner I want love, loyalty, respect, attention and affection. As long as those needs are met, and they're good looking enough to keep my eyes on them, everything else is inconsequential.

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                                          Title. Interested to see the response from different religions

                                          Edit: Stating your religion would be appreciated. Lack of religion counts for the purpose of this question. Also let's not downvote people for differing religions, all voices are welcome here. If no; why?

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                                          It depends. My religious affiliation is likely therianthropy. I don't follow a traditional religion, and see it more as a spiritual practice, much in the same way that a trans person may deeply explore their gender identity--I am also trans.

                                          My requirements are simple; Code of conduct, not a code of "facts". I will not engage with creation theories and such. It is an insult to science, and often resists fundamentally good change.

                                          I also will not engage with a "Reddit atheist". I think this requires no further explanation--I was one.

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