The Future is NOT Self-Hosted
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This guy didn't want to do the leg work of emailing his photos to his friends, and declares self-hosting isn't the solution to a social net? I totally see the point in community hosting, in fact I'm all for that.
But really? You don't have to make your servers public facing, you just white-list the people you want to see your stuff and make sure to organize your drives with public and private pages.
He went through all that and didn't take it far enough.
emailing his photos to his friends
that's sometimes difficult, e.g. when you have thousands of photos, and emails have a size limit of 20 MB per email. using matrix chat or sth is also not ideal since the other side will have to download images one-by-one. sending a zip file might work, but the matrix protocol might have a size limit for attachments.
an FTP server might work. also consider that you want to store the images somewhere, not just send them once. how do you do that with messaging services?
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Lol. So we trust local governments and communities now?
Has anyone ever worked with them IT wise?
I do so in four different EU countries and know people who do in the US and Canada.
And...well...there is a reason local governments often went towards the cloud services. Do people think Joe Admin in Bumfucknowhere can operate what basically becomes a MiniDC?
And who controls that?Sorry. Either go "host at home" and only fuck up things for oneself.
Or do it properly with a proper DC. Colocate if you want. But that? I know it sounds appealing, especially for someone entering selfhosting (like the author did a few weeks ago).
But there is a reason hosting is a business once it comes to other peoples data.wrote last edited by [email protected]Lol. So we trust local governments and communities now?
I trust my local community more than i trust Amazon, that's for sure.
Communities might be incompetent with IT (today), but maybe they just need a while to catch up. It could work in 10 years from now, and we gotta work towards that point.
Also, note that "local community" doesn't have to mean municipality; it can also be your local nerd working part-time at your local library.
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I've just been using Jellyfin for my music. Is there a big advantage to this over it?
wrote last edited by [email protected]Not really, I was trying our naivdrome as I'm phasing out Plex and liked it so much I kept it.
Its impressive how light navidrome is and it scans a lot faster since its only music and not my movies too.
That said I don't use Navidromes ui I use Synfonium as a client.
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The future is community-hosted
Related Hacker News thread:
Techno feudalism mentioned. Queue a Varoufakis talk
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emailing his photos to his friends
that's sometimes difficult, e.g. when you have thousands of photos, and emails have a size limit of 20 MB per email. using matrix chat or sth is also not ideal since the other side will have to download images one-by-one. sending a zip file might work, but the matrix protocol might have a size limit for attachments.
an FTP server might work. also consider that you want to store the images somewhere, not just send them once. how do you do that with messaging services?
wrote last edited by [email protected]Synology shared folder, separate user accounts, accessible through tailscale is how I share media with my friends and family outside my network.
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The future is federated.
I highly doubt that. Each federated node is fairly expensive to host since it basically needs a complete copy of everything on its peers.
I think the future is distributed. You connect to others, and if the network is large enough, each piece of data only needs to exist on a faction of the nodes to be safe from disappearing. Just think about it, across your various devices (laptop, phone, tablet, desktop, etc) you likely have a couple TB available, and your can buy cloud storage for any extra space you need. And you don't need to always be online either, it'll sync when two peers are online at the same time, so it'll be eventually consistent.
The main barrier here is NAT IMO, you need to be reachable for it to work. That's getting resolved with IPv6, but it's rolling out really slowly.
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Lol. So we trust local governments and communities now?
I trust my local community more than i trust Amazon, that's for sure.
Communities might be incompetent with IT (today), but maybe they just need a while to catch up. It could work in 10 years from now, and we gotta work towards that point.
Also, note that "local community" doesn't have to mean municipality; it can also be your local nerd working part-time at your local library.
And this is somehow better?
There is a lot of room between "BigTech" and "Joe Average" doing it for his neighbours.
Mailbox.org, etc. (see my other post here) -
emailing his photos to his friends
that's sometimes difficult, e.g. when you have thousands of photos, and emails have a size limit of 20 MB per email. using matrix chat or sth is also not ideal since the other side will have to download images one-by-one. sending a zip file might work, but the matrix protocol might have a size limit for attachments.
an FTP server might work. also consider that you want to store the images somewhere, not just send them once. how do you do that with messaging services?
Matrix file limits are server-dependent, usually enforced for the uploader only. If you run a server you can set it to several gigabytes lol
Alteernatively, use a tool designed for file transfer: https://gist.github.com/SMUsamaShah/fd6e275e44009b72f64d0570256bb3b2
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emailing his photos to his friends
that's sometimes difficult, e.g. when you have thousands of photos, and emails have a size limit of 20 MB per email. using matrix chat or sth is also not ideal since the other side will have to download images one-by-one. sending a zip file might work, but the matrix protocol might have a size limit for attachments.
an FTP server might work. also consider that you want to store the images somewhere, not just send them once. how do you do that with messaging services?
It’s pretty simple to send a Nextcloud share link.
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I think the issue is more that large tech firms can absolutely deal with external security in their applications. The amount of times gmail or Microsoft 365 has been hacked and leaked a bunch of client data is statistically zero when looking at their attack area.
Joe Dirt self hosting a mail server for his neighbors on a salvaged rack server is 1000x more likely to get hacked or lose a ton of his neighbors' data than a big tech firm.
That is kind of the trade off for community hosting. There are very very few backup and security-literate people in communities.
Big Tech is what we need security from !
Prison are very safe, for the guards.
