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Looking for a VPS. I don't know who to choose.

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    You can get a quad core ARM 24 gb ram vpn for free on oracle cloud on their free tier.

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    They refused my visa during the onboarding, a bit surprising

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      My main use currently is a modded Minecraft server. But I want a VPS over one of those Minecraft host specifically because I plan on messing around with docker containers later and hosting my own Lemmy instance. Currently I have a openVZ server from TNA hosting because it was like $50 a year. But it's not powerful enough for the Minecraft modpack.

      So what VPS provider would you lot recommend?

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      Silly question but isn’t using a VPS the exact opposite of “self hosted”?

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        Silly question but isn’t using a VPS the exact opposite of “self hosted”?

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        For me, self-hosting is about staying in control over your software and data, so I think hosting in a VPS still fits the bill, even if it isn't the way most people go about it

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        • kokesh@lemmy.worldK [email protected]

          Oracle Free Tier. Works like a charm for me for 2 years. Really free, really working. No matter what shit company Oracle is.

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          Their free tiers look nice, but I've read that your server must stay above X% CPU usage average to prevent deletion, is that true?

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            For me, self-hosting is about staying in control over your software and data, so I think hosting in a VPS still fits the bill, even if it isn't the way most people go about it

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            Aren’t you partially not in control? If that hardware gets nuked some how then you’re compromised

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              Aren’t you partially not in control? If that hardware gets nuked some how then you’re compromised

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              True, but you'd still have a lot more control over your stuff than say, some Microsoft or Google product

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              • kokesh@lemmy.worldK [email protected]

                Oracle Free Tier. Works like a charm for me for 2 years. Really free, really working. No matter what shit company Oracle is.

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                I got one. It's just too slow for what I need and can't do webrtc because of a hardware limitation.

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                • kokesh@lemmy.worldK [email protected]

                  Oracle Free Tier. Works like a charm for me for 2 years. Really free, really working. No matter what shit company Oracle is.

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                  What are the specs like?

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                    They refused my visa during the onboarding, a bit surprising

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                    Credit card? Have things changed? I have two containers hosted there and I never gave mine.

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                    • kirk@startrek.websiteK [email protected]

                      What are the specs like?

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                      24gb memory and 4 OCPU . the CPU doesnt sound like much, but if its using the ampere back end and not the amd micro, the CPU performance scales up with demand (to a point).

                      I have two containers running, one using 16gb memory and another using 4gb, they each have one cpu and they perform fine for what they do.

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                        Silly question but isn’t using a VPS the exact opposite of “self hosted”?

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                        The opposite of VPS is more like “home lab”.

                        Managing a VPS yourself still counts as self-hosting.

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                          Aren’t you partially not in control? If that hardware gets nuked some how then you’re compromised

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                          Sure, but with proper backups, you can be up and running somewhere else quickly, minutes even if you script it.

                          I mostly use it to get around CGNAT, but it totally makes sense for something that needs to be externally available anyway, like a Minecraft server.

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                            I just swapped from ssdNodes to MassiveGRID and I'm pretty happy with them so far (I'm sure there are much better VPS hosts out there). They just extended the sale they posted on lownedboxes through the weekend, so if you pay for 3 years, you get a 4th for free and you also lock-in the pricing for after that 4 year period, too. This is the thread.

                            If you do decide to order (before Monday) make sure you sign up and make a post in the lowendbox forum thread to get your extra year.

                            The only real downside to them is they only offer 1Gbps connections for right now (they're upgrading so you can order multi-Gbps connections in the future), but I'm able to max out the connection: http://i.xno.dev/u/6ZM52h.png

                            These are the specs: http://i.xno.dev/u/qJeLjE.png
                            And this is proof of the 4th year: http://i.xno.dev/u/0xN6Z0.png

                            So I ended up paying $141.28 for 4 years which is $2.94/mo. Very worth it, IMO considering the specs.

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                            Thank you. I was paying that yearly for my VPS with half the specs.

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                              Just an FYI getting a vps or dedicated server that is fast enough for Minecraft modpacks is going to be fairly expensive. It might be cheaper to get shared hosting for the MC server and a separate vps for the docker stuff.

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                              Or if you have reliable home internet, just get/reuse a small PC and host at home.

                              But if you don't have a ton of users, you can host on a pretty cheap VPS.

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                                Silly question but isn’t using a VPS the exact opposite of “self hosted”?

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                                This is one of those things where I think that purity might conflict with progress. I am currently using a VPS in a privacy-friendly country to host some stuff, and I am trying to move more of my needs there. I can easily try to host things at my house(and I do to a limited extent, I have a VPN I run through a VPS to connect my devices together to accomplish this), but dealing with the constraints of non-professional hardware management and a residential internet connection is frustrating. This frustration has in the past prevented me from reducing my use of services where I know they are farming my data, and would probably honor illegal and warrant-less data requests from government agencies. At least with IaaS, I give them money in exchange for a virtual machine, vs SaaS where I give them possibly money but more importantly permission to do whatever they want with my highly structured data(far easer to data mine a easily searchable database of PII vs a filesystem of unknown structure).

                                Even outside of tech, I have often found that my sense of purity gets in the way of actually making progress towards my values. Use the VPS if it will get you to stop using worse things.

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                                  24gb memory and 4 OCPU . the CPU doesnt sound like much, but if its using the ampere back end and not the amd micro, the CPU performance scales up with demand (to a point).

                                  I have two containers running, one using 16gb memory and another using 4gb, they each have one cpu and they perform fine for what they do.

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                                  Ok thanks not bad! How much storage?

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                                    Did you upgrade your account to a paid one? I've read that this might help to precent from being deleted. Even with a paid-as-you-go account you're able to use the free tiers.

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                                    I'm on completely free, no deletionm I'm using it to run Wireguard tunnel to my home network, after I was put behind CGNAT. Domain name pointed to the VPS, it redirects ports to my home.

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                                      Thank you. I was paying that yearly for my VPS with half the specs.

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                                      Ya, like I said. I jumped on them because of the price. The hardware isn't the most powerful in the world, but to run my hosted services it's been excellent so far. I'm super happy and I'm paying next to nothing which is great.

                                      Now my domain costs more than my hosting T__T

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                                      • C [email protected]

                                        Silly question but isn’t using a VPS the exact opposite of “self hosted”?

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                                        The opposite of self-hosted would be managed service.

                                        You run it yourself at your own location however you want it

                                        Vs

                                        Someone runs it for you at their location. However the want it

                                        VPS is someone loans you a VM at their location that you run yourself however you want to.

                                        It's still relevant to self-hosted because you still have to do all the work, you were just using their network, power, air conditioning, hardware and fire suppression. You're still in the hook for installs and patches, configuration, and software issues.

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                                        • kirk@startrek.websiteK [email protected]

                                          Ok thanks not bad! How much storage?

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                                          Hmm... Let me look.

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