Zelensky: Ukraine still 'ready' to sign minerals deal with Trump
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I'm still at a loss what Ukraine would get out of this deal. It's not weapons
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The goal is US security guarantees, as in US military enforcing any ceasefire agreement with Russia.
I don't think that guarantee is worth the paper it is written on as long as Trump is in office, but that is the goal.
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Ukraine will give up their natural resources for nothing.
Russia will still be the aggressor and will still do Russian things. There will be no peace deal with the U.S.
Russia doesn’t care, they own the White House at this point. The White House does as Putin commands them to.
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The fake plan is that US businesses would be in Ukraine processing the minerals and that would be a deterrent.
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Does he still think the US will honour any agreement he makes with them that will harm Russia? I get that he's doing the best he can for his country, but I don't see there's anything left to salvage here. Trump is working for Russia completely.
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It’s “champing” at the bit. Not chomping
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Any long-term agreement with any US administration is not worth anything.
This is not even purely a Trump thing. We saw this with the Budapest Memorandum.
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You can't say this publicly. Rules of dilmacy and there are other allies that we need to work with.
Everyone in Ukraine itself believes exactly that. I am no mind reader, but I am almost certain this would include Zelenskyy as well.
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Any deal with the current US administration isn't worth the paper it's written on.
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I think he's mostly banking on what comes after Trump assuming our democracy survives. That and if there were Americans on the ground in the country it may be an effective deterrent against Russian aggression just to have American bodies there that could get exploded and bring the USA into a shooting war on Ukraine's side.
That's my take on it anyways. Plus it could potentially be beneficial to both countries if the USA were to actually play ball and not be dickheads. Ukraine probably, idk I'm not an economist/read up that much, does not have all the equipment and men and experience to exploit all their mineral wealth. Bringing in American contractors to help isn't the worst idea, it just needs to be done right for it to make sense.
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I think it's really clever actually:
Zelensky knows Trump secretly - although less and less secretly - roots for Putin. He pretends to offer this deal to save face, but he really doesn't want to provide any aid to Ukraine, which is probably why he and the couch fucker were so quick to get ill-tampered and call off the negotiations at the White House on Friday: the last thing they want is to find themselves in a position to have to help Ukraine against Putin.
Zelensky is calling them on their bluff and cornering them: either they don't sign a deal after all and Trump's duplicitous dealings will be exposed for all to see, or they do sign a deal and Trump will have to kill Russians in Ukraine, which is bad news for his relationships with Putin.
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Even weapons would be worthless. All US weapons systems have remote kill switches.
They said that a US administration could put restrictions on kit (read equipment) from the US and that if countries are “deemed not to be doing what you are told you will suddenly find out missiles won’t fire and planes won’t fly. You have got to be careful.”
https://xcancel.com/prestonstew_/status/1895160295032598549
This is a typical "anonymous sources say" type article, but its believable and in line with industry standards even for less critical equipment like trucks and tractors.
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That could be what comes out of it, but I just fear that they sign the papers, companies buy up the land to have rights to mine those minerals and then they wait until Russia wins. Cause if Trump and Putin are buddies, then they could still have those mineral rights after the war in the worst case scenario.
I can’t believe that we’re talking about scenarios like this when it comes to the USA and supporting Ukraine. Urgh..
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Remember when Ukraine made a deal to give up it's nuclear weapons in exchange for security? pepperidge farm remembers.
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Meh, both are considered correct today. Might as well complain that almost every sentence in American English contains misspellings because it's different from British English.
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I have to say, I knew I wasn't quite old enough to make it to my grave without seeing the beginning of WW3, but the last thing I expected is that it would come from the US turning into a raging fascist dictatorship.
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He’s better off without a US deal. Trump won’t do shit to help him. That’s as good as signing a deal with Putin.
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Remember when the Arabs revolted against the ottomans for independence. PepperRidge farm remembers all western lies