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Which browser do you use and why?

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  • J [email protected]

    Yes, that's my thinking. For now it's acceptable.

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    Let's hope it doesn't get much worse than this. The direction is pretty alarming.

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      How is a hobbyist fork of Firefox selling your data and slurping up whatever they want from the browser? People use forks because the company's telemetry and data collection are often removed from the fork.

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      That's what I said

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      • G [email protected]

        IIRC, it's one of the few add-ons that does work with Librewolf.

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        I've never heard of librewolf preventing dark mode. Garuda's firedragon browser was based on librewolf before switching to floorp, and it came with the darkreader extension by default.

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        • O [email protected]

          Using firefox but concerned now

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          Mostly fennec (firefox) on android but there are concerning news every half year about firefox. No idea how long I can withstand.

          Vanadium is my alternative but it has no (good) browser tab overview (list instead of huge squares). And bottom navigation is sub par as well. Brave would be better in that regard but vanadium is rock solid.

          As soon as firefox drops ublock, I'm out. I mean you can't trust firefox not chaning their path anymore. 😢

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          • F [email protected]

            I use Mullvad Browser. It's maintained in coordination with the Tor Project, and is essentially the Tor Browser with Tor itself stripped out. Same browser fingerprinting protections, however, among other things.

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            This is my lead contender now that Firefox is shitting the bed. Any downsides?

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            • O [email protected]

              Using firefox but concerned now

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              Myself i run "Firedragon" which is a fork of floorp.

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                This is my lead contender now that Firefox is shitting the bed. Any downsides?

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                Mull browser is deprecated, Ironfox is the community fork

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                • K [email protected]

                  What’s wrong with Chromium? License or Google backing?

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                  The Google backing. See ublock Origin for example. Google wants less effective ad blockers because ads are 90% of their business. Google removed manifest v2, which is needed for good ad blocking capabilities. Now Chromium, and any browser based on it (Edge, Brave, Vivaldi, etc.), also lose it. Some have said they will manually add it back in to their browser, but that will only be possible for so long as Google’s upstream Chromium base further diverges.

                  The massive market share of Chromium-based browsers also gives Google near complete control over web standards. There are many websites that use non-standard functionality that only works in Chromium and not Firefox or Safari. Developers also will not adopt new standards unless Google chooses to as well because there would not be enough users to justify it otherwise.

                  TLDR: Control over Chromium gives Google extremely strong influence over the web and their interests likely do not have much overlap with yours.

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                  • G [email protected]

                    IIRC, it's one of the few add-ons that does work with Librewolf.

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                    I use DarkReader on Librewolf, works just fine. In fact, all of my extensions work.

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                    • E [email protected]

                      Nothing. Just echo chamber hysteria.

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                      All the
                      Se downvotes really prove your point.

                      I think I might switch to that.

                      I used Firefox for cross-platform password management. That’s the biggest impact on me.

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                      • K [email protected]

                        All the
                        Se downvotes really prove your point.

                        I think I might switch to that.

                        I used Firefox for cross-platform password management. That’s the biggest impact on me.

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                        Who cares about downvotes from people which become irrational about a browser engine, lol.

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                        • O [email protected]

                          Using firefox but concerned now

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                          Firefox. Google removed a valuable addon from their store without justifiable reason and kept it removed because there's not sufficient backlash.

                          The addon is AdNauseam. It's an improvement on uBlock Origin that clicks adds in addition to hiding them.

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                          • F [email protected]

                            They are better in most of the case, Firefox only is not that good...

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                            Maybe it's just me, but I can't really see how they can be better beyond philosophical reasons.

                            I guess bringing back stuff like the proper dropdown menu we had in the 2000s would be an example, but I don't expect most of them to do something like that.

                            I expect most of them to have some kind of gimmick that isn't relevant to how I use a web browser.

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                            • savvywolf@pawb.socialS [email protected]

                              I'm a Firefox user and I'm not really that bothered about this tos changes. If they do mess things up I'll probably just switch to some fork that doesn't do the fuckery.

                              Wouldn't be surprised if Mint packages Firefox with it (whatever "it" is) disabled, since they build Thunderbird without telemetry.

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                              Practical response.

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                              • F [email protected]

                                You're right but first don't worry the biggest part of people use stock Firefox and secondly Firefox stock is just not as private as a fork

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                                The biggest part of people use Chrome-based browsers.

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                                • O [email protected]

                                  Using firefox but concerned now

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                                  Firefox. I'm not going to help the Chromium monopoly.

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                                  • C [email protected]

                                    Maybe it's just me, but I can't really see how they can be better beyond philosophical reasons.

                                    I guess bringing back stuff like the proper dropdown menu we had in the 2000s would be an example, but I don't expect most of them to do something like that.

                                    I expect most of them to have some kind of gimmick that isn't relevant to how I use a web browser.

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                                    Privacy, simply better, better anti-fingerprinting.
                                    Sure you can do it with stock Firefox but it's just simpler to have a pre-hardened browser

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                                    • O [email protected]

                                      I found a decent answer here https://www.reddit.com/r/waterfox/comments/18g8tez/what_am_i_gaining_if_i_switch_from_librewolf_to/

                                      That mod sums up a lot that I found. I don’t know the answer because they both have odd downsides.

                                      Yes they’re both forks!

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                                      Didn't Waterfox get bought out by an ad company?

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                                      • ferk@lemmy.mlF [email protected]

                                        The biggest part of people use Chrome-based browsers.

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                                        Even when using forks of Firefox you are contributing to the Mozilla project and can support it as well
                                        Using librewolf is better than using chrome in term of support for the main devs Mozilla

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                                          Using firefox but concerned now

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                                          Zen as main driver because of its features that are on par with Chromium-based_Vivaldi browser_, and LibreWolf on "older" machines or systems that require stability/consistency. Both are awesome to me.

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