Happy No-more-USA Day
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At least in my city we are fortunate that the government buildings are located at a key intersection. Weekdays we usually just get heckled by lead brained boomers. Weekends there are way more cars, a more diverse audience, and more support in general.
The lead brained boomers are the ones who need to see it most.
There is little value in preaching to the choir.
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The lead brained boomers are the ones who need to see it most.
There is little value in preaching to the choir.
I think the lead brained boomers are a lost cause.
The group to convince are the unengaged or those that just vote a certain way without putting much thought.
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The declaration really can't be highlighted like that. It undermines the gravity of the letter, but I understand people don't like to read.
Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient Causes; and accordingly all Experience hath shewn, that Mankind are more disposed to suffer, while Evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the Forms to which they are accustomed.
Essentially, they say that people are willing to endure suffering for the sake of not having to change their lives. But Then it follows that with
But when a long Train of Abuses and Usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object, evinces a Design to reduce them under absolute Despotism
When all people can no longer ignore that the government is forcing everything to have an absolute ruler, the people will come to the conclusion that the government must end by force.
While a lot of people agree with this, it's not enough. When I go to work, everyone is still going about their day like nothing has really changed. Too many people still have shelter, food, and medicine. That's about to change now. And when people experience that, that is the time they will overthrow.
The reason they want revolutionary violence to occur earlier than later is because they still have the opportunity to turn the most brain washed against the rest of us.
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Cool. Our largest nationwide protest was ~11M, most of whom were elderly. So you agree we need to grow our numbers.
Small factions of violence have historically proven to reduce resistance numbers and justify the implementation of assembly-restricting legislation.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]tThe scary part to me is the imbalance of power and how few are aware of it. Yeah we have a bunch.of guns around here, but how many people actually can use them in a meaningful way? How many would know what to do if THEY were being shot at? Handful of retired vets, some people with a little training, but few have ever experienced active combat.
Never mind the fact that money is the real deal breaker. Government has drones upon drones. They have satellite imagery, cameras all over the place, they could easily shut down phone and internet connectivity as well as power. Collect phone data off of a certain area, set up a perimeter and use everyone stupid phones as a tracking beacon. Send in some drones for visibility some for strikes and push in military to clean up what's left.
Thats the thing nobody talks about. Going from our current pseudo-democracy to totalitarianism is little more than the flip of a switch by a crazy old man. They are under the illusion that it can't or won't happen. It 100% can. Nobody gives a shit about the nowhere places like great plains states, it would happen in major cities and surrounding regions. Take over, set up checkpoints. Once under control, sell them off to billionaires who would enact all their crazy control fetishes. One for zuck, one for theil, bezos will want one, maybe musky. Some people will escape to the useless regions like the south, central states or whatever, nobody will bother too much. If some sort of resistance grows, drop a few bombs to remind them that they're being watched. Cut off food, energy, blow upna few bridges and roads wait until winter.
I'm sure multiple versions of this have been modeled out within the military intelligence groups. Nobody is coming to save us. The rich people dont give a shit about this country, they only care about themselves. Nobody in the military is going to stage a coup, they would not stand a chance anyway and it would be a death sentence for anyone they know or love.
The only hope is that the crazy old bastard dies before he really decides to go full Looney toons. Its clear who runs this country; they always have but now they are no longer content to own an absurd amount of it, they want it ALL.
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I'll believe it when I see it. The Americans seem perfectly content with how things are.
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I wasn't suggesting we become violent yet, I was just answering your question. The population is definitely large enough for these protests and a violent revolution if it's ever required.
The population is, sure. The important thing to remember is that a violent resistance will always be smaller than a peaceful one, and the current size of our peaceful resistance is too small for a violent resistance to succeed.
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Lisa murkowski can catch these hands.
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So, someone within America has a negative view about the current American government and their supporters and you want to show them the error of their ways? So, this person you take issue with. Who is wishing ill of the supporters of the government attempting to bring about the end of social equity and expand the class divide of people based on financial income and the inalienable physical characteristics of people outside of white European descent, like the Jim Crow era, that's rot? That's what you're saying. Fuck off, man.
Actually they never said anything in support of equality.
Fuck off, man.
No, but thanks for the offer.
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How about a general strike? More than protests but non-violent.
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...yeah. Yeah, i mean, totally. Yeah.
Aaaaaaaaaanyways, im super into pacifism now.
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It’s a great way to get arrested or killed, scare people away from resistance for fear of their safety, and embolden fascism by turning a constitutionally protected peaceful resistance into a domestic threat.
How many people with guns do you estimate it takes to overthrow the largest military in the world by force?
Dude the president just declared birthright citizenship illegal and deployed the mari!es to crack down on peaceful protests against ice blatant violating the 4th amemdment.
Nobody. Gives. A. Shit. About your fucking constitution.
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How about a general strike? More than protests but non-violent.
The thing is that the average person in the US still have it pretty good, because they still have their bread and circus to distract them from the creeping fascist takeover.
When people refer to those instances in history where non-violent protest succeeded, the average person was much more afflicted, as in with literal risk of starvation or similar. Modern dictators have long since learnt that you just need to ensure very basic means of sustenance and a helluva lot of entertainment (provided with the willing help of the tech bro oligarchs), to keep the general populace content with events.
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I mean yes, but most of the gun owners in this country will rise up and stand on the side of tyranny.
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Dude the president just declared birthright citizenship illegal and deployed the mari!es to crack down on peaceful protests against ice blatant violating the 4th amemdment.
Nobody. Gives. A. Shit. About your fucking constitution.
No, he didn’t. He wrote an executive order. That’s not a law. It’s a directive to the executive branch, and we are in no way obligated to follow it as citizens.
SCOTUS ruled that a district judge cannot impose a nationwide injunction against the executive order. Each judge will now have to rule on the case of birthright citizenship independently. The 14th amendment is very clear.
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No, he didn’t. He wrote an executive order. That’s not a law. It’s a directive to the executive branch, and we are in no way obligated to follow it as citizens.
SCOTUS ruled that a district judge cannot impose a nationwide injunction against the executive order. Each judge will now have to rule on the case of birthright citizenship independently. The 14th amendment is very clear.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]He declared, and people are going along. 'Law' does not seem to matter here.
We are not obligated as citizens. Thats what the men with guns are for.
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Thats some tepid-ass bullshit for a part of thr constitution, it almost doesnt matter that the administration is going to wipe their asses with it.
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He declared, and people are going along. 'Law' does not seem to matter here.
We are not obligated as citizens. Thats what the men with guns are for.
scotus says
Thats some tepid-ass bullshit for a part of thr constitution, it almost doesnt matter that the administration is going to wipe their asses with it.
So because you believe something will happen, we should lead a small, unsuccessful, violent revolution to ensure that it does happen?
How about you keep your big feelings to yourself while the people who have successfully grown a resistance from a few hundred thousand to ~10M in four months continue to successfully plan and execute a real resistance.
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How about a general strike? More than protests but non-violent.
I think it will take more than that to take down a terrorist organization unfortunately
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So because you believe something will happen, we should lead a small, unsuccessful, violent revolution to ensure that it does happen?
How about you keep your big feelings to yourself while the people who have successfully grown a resistance from a few hundred thousand to ~10M in four months continue to successfully plan and execute a real resistance.
You use that phrase a lot. I feel like you're not actually reading what im typing.
It's not a resistance if it can't actually do anything. I'm not sure the milder thing is necessarily the easy sell.
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You use that phrase a lot. I feel like you're not actually reading what im typing.
It's not a resistance if it can't actually do anything. I'm not sure the milder thing is necessarily the easy sell.
What about growing numbers is confusing to you? 10M people is ~2% of our nation. We couldn’t collectively get anything done, yet. We’re growing a resistance through organized protests.
You clearly haven’t read enough on the topic. Do some research and then we can talk. Until then, your opinion is woefully uninformed.
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The state necessarily has a monopoly on violence; it’s part of what makes it the State. But what choice do the People have when the power of the state is seized by a group determined to use that power against its own population? The USA is famously “invasion proof” but there is nothing in place to protect us from such abuse. The only response that could stop a protracted guerilla style resistance is the total dissolution of the senate and house with immediate emergency elections to replace 100% of the members
