Need a keyboard with a dedicated "slop" button
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ITT: exactly what the tweet was about.
(Edit: It was a tumblr post.)Y'all just saw "AI" and started frothing at the mouth about LLMs when, in the context of the tweet, it might just as well have referred to path finding AI in a video game.
Seriously, I don't get the issue but I understand the phenomenon. It's like painters when the camera was invented,
"cameras will put us out of work, cameras are lower quality, anyone with a camera can just take a picture!"
Painters are still around, painted art is still desired and expensive. It will be the same over time with AI, we just have to wait for people to get over it.
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Seriously, I don't get the issue but I understand the phenomenon. It's like painters when the camera was invented,
"cameras will put us out of work, cameras are lower quality, anyone with a camera can just take a picture!"
Painters are still around, painted art is still desired and expensive. It will be the same over time with AI, we just have to wait for people to get over it.
Can be applied to any new technology. This comic was made before generative AI was a thing.
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I chat with ai whenever I don't have a friend to chat with. (a lot)
Oh. Well at least you have the comments sections for now, though who knows how long before thats talking to AI as well. Apparently facebook is that way.
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But conservatives reacting to the word "pronouns" isn't at all about systemic oppression? It's about the immediate brain off that follows to instantly rant about "woke" or whatever, even if e.g. someone mentioned pronouns in a grammar context. It's a stupid reaction born from opposition to a perceived "woke mind virus" (or equivalent).
Similarly, some people read "AI" and immediately think whatever follows is worthless garbage. Which, even ignoring that not everything labeled AI is always ML, is a stupid reaction born from opposition to the LLM (and general genAI) hype.
Sure, the "woke mind virus" is pure delusion, and I, too, want to throw up from the genAI hype every time someone mentions "AI" or "ChatGPT", but AI isn't even well defined and even ML has plenty of useful applications.
It's the same anti-intellectual "I hate the things I associate with this word so anyone not hating on the word is stupid" while disregarding what the word actually means in the given context.
I think you're assuming people are having a knee jerk, ignorant response, because you have come to a different conclusion than they have.
My dislike of consumer AI is very well informed. I've built my own local models and used generative AI extensively for work (no choice). I was actually pretty excited for the technology before the corps started using it as their latest accelerationist cudgel in the class war.
As it stands, I think it's hard to justify using AI, even as a casual consumer. For many reasons that are already well documented.
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Art is art, it doesn’t matter what tool or medium was used, what matters is it reflects the artists intention or vision.
Based. Nothing triggers redditors and chuds alike than recognizing the value in all art.
Based. Nothing triggers redditors and chuds alike than recognizing the value in all art.
^ This matches my intentions and vision completely, so it's mine now.
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Can be applied to any new technology. This comic was made before generative AI was a thing.
As always, there's an xkcd for that....lol
To quickly further expand on my previous example with a few I thought of afterwards,
- the wax cylinder will kill live music
- the radio will kill live music
- the TV will kill radio
- the airplane will kill the cruise lines
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"AI" in videogames is basically never powered by large models like LLMs or Stable Diffusion or others. The fact you compare them only demonstrates how fucking little you actually know about this topic you are BLINDLY defending.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Not sure why you're getting downvoted, most video game enemies do not learn. They can have some clever algorithms, but they don't know anything about how you've responded in the past and which of their tactics work better against you. Have they been trained on player interaction at all? I would love to see some learning NPCs in games and would be happy to dial down graphics settings to power them instead.
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Because it's true.
It's broadly true, and that's more to do with how it is used than what it is.
If an amoral corporation is providing it as a service, you can bet it's using energy as cheap and dirty as it can get away with, and using as much water as it wants.
But that's not the only way. You can run these things with renewable energy and no water. In those cases, the training is still a problem of course.
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It's wild that OP would think these two things are equivalent.
Pronouns are a thing that harms nobody, and the people frothing at the mouth are going out of their way to hurt people who did nothing wrong.
AI (in its most common meaning at this time in pop culture) at the minimum is wasting electricity (and it's associated climate impact), and has the potential to totally decimate the job market and usher in an era of inequality that we haven't seen for hundreds of years, while simultaneously stealing from artists. The people frothing at the mouth aren't hurting anyone.
To use a bit of hyperbole, it's kinda like if you said:
Some of y'all see "white power" and freak out without processing anything that's being said, like a conservative who sees a mixed race couple.
Like pretty clearly people have a good reason for freaking out when they see that, and the other side of the equation are just bad people.
[…] Pronouns are a thing that harms nobody […]
This feels like a hasty generalization. For example, if one is experiencing gender dysphoria, we could assume that misgendering them with their undesired pronouns would cause them psychological distress ^[1]^ — ie harm.
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Gender dysphoria (GD) is the distress a person experiences due to inconsistency between their gender identity—their personal sense of their own gender—and their sex assigned at birth.
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Not sure why you're getting downvoted, most video game enemies do not learn. They can have some clever algorithms, but they don't know anything about how you've responded in the past and which of their tactics work better against you. Have they been trained on player interaction at all? I would love to see some learning NPCs in games and would be happy to dial down graphics settings to power them instead.
Most game ai is state machines and just extensions of the gameloop
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Usually we'd use the term "OOP" to refer to the OP of the original post in this context. Helps make it clearer.
Object Oriented Programming
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I agree with you in spirit, but I think at this point AI uses less global energy than video games, and the internet generally seems to think video games good, AI bad.
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Object Oriented Programming
Context clues would make it obvious that that is not what's meant.
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AI Slop Eaters need to know their bullshit is unacceptable, Fuck AI.
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I wasn't talking about AI at all, I was talking about people talking about AI.
AFAICT the OP was talking about vocaloid.
https://sexygaywizard.tumblr.com/post/739313272247009280/some-of-yall-will-see-the-word-ai-and-freak-out#notesWell when you're done not talking about AI feel free to join the discussion.
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[…] Pronouns are a thing that harms nobody […]
This feels like a hasty generalization. For example, if one is experiencing gender dysphoria, we could assume that misgendering them with their undesired pronouns would cause them psychological distress ^[1]^ — ie harm.
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Gender dysphoria (GD) is the distress a person experiences due to inconsistency between their gender identity—their personal sense of their own gender—and their sex assigned at birth.
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That is a willful misinterpretation of what I wrote.
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That is a willful misinterpretation of what I wrote.
wrote last edited by [email protected]How so? It wasn't my intent to misrepresent your words. That being said, I do apologize if I've accidentally (and potentially carelessly) misinterpreted what you said. I'll gladly fix my comment if you help me understand where my interpretation went wrong
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As always, there's an xkcd for that....lol
To quickly further expand on my previous example with a few I thought of afterwards,
- the wax cylinder will kill live music
- the radio will kill live music
- the TV will kill radio
- the airplane will kill the cruise lines
Are cruise lines as a mode of transportation still around? Cruise ships are for leisure now, but they were previously much more prevalent.
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It's wild that OP would think these two things are equivalent.
Pronouns are a thing that harms nobody, and the people frothing at the mouth are going out of their way to hurt people who did nothing wrong.
AI (in its most common meaning at this time in pop culture) at the minimum is wasting electricity (and it's associated climate impact), and has the potential to totally decimate the job market and usher in an era of inequality that we haven't seen for hundreds of years, while simultaneously stealing from artists. The people frothing at the mouth aren't hurting anyone.
To use a bit of hyperbole, it's kinda like if you said:
Some of y'all see "white power" and freak out without processing anything that's being said, like a conservative who sees a mixed race couple.
Like pretty clearly people have a good reason for freaking out when they see that, and the other side of the equation are just bad people.
wrote last edited by [email protected]I don't think OP thinks they are actually equivalent though, it's just a satirical comparison.
Another comparison could be vegans. Environmental impact of meat consumption is huge and it also has the more obvious harm and ethical issues.
Vegans get a lot of shit anyway, but imagine if every comment or post about meat, regardless of where it was or in what context got a barrage of abrasive comments from vegans?
You will never convince someone of your cause if you're a dick to them. It's a huge internet trait to just go full meltdown at everything rather than talk with some you don't agree with to aim for a better outcome.
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How so? It wasn't my intent to misrepresent your words. That being said, I do apologize if I've accidentally (and potentially carelessly) misinterpreted what you said. I'll gladly fix my comment if you help me understand where my interpretation went wrong
The comment was referring to preferred pronouns as just "pronouns" because the cultural zeitgeist has conflated the two. There are tons of right wing assholes that say that they "refuse to use pronouns at all" without processing the difference between "preferred pronouns" and the grammatical construct of pronouns as a whole.
