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  • V [email protected]

    Your comment makes sense IMO.

    To make an enormous simplification, it's like those who screamed "rape!" because someone had looked (in a wrong way) at them. It removes the credibility of real rape.

    Sorry, it's early and I couldn't find a nicer analogy, I posted it anyways because it's an important distinction IMO, "AI" isn't burning the planet or taking your jobs, some saves your grandma from cancer, LLM and image generators does.

    Also, and this is only what I think, Art is also used in this way, some person drawing a panda for some company is now an Artist. I mean maybe they are but that panda can be made by an image generator (if it can be done cheaply) and free up their creative potential to do other things.

    And also, it's not like someone has a plan how to make things better, it's just "forbid it" (good luck with that) or being angry online.

    The world is black and white for many people.

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    Sorry, it’s early and I couldn’t find a nicer analogy

    I mean, you coulda just gone with "the boy who cried wolf".

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      Sorry, it’s early and I couldn’t find a nicer analogy

      I mean, you coulda just gone with "the boy who cried wolf".

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      Crying Wolf is making something up though so not exactly the same.

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        Is a neural network that analyzes x-rays before handing them to a doctor AI? I would say no.

        The term "AI" is already pretty fuzzy even in the technical sense, but if that's how you're using it then it doesn't mean anything at all.

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        Most people on Lemmy seem to define AI as "evil machine learning that i don't like" vs non-AI as everything else. It's a wee bit delusional.

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        • P [email protected]

          It's like you saw my response, and processed exactly none of it before you replied.

          Did I say this is how it should be? No. I was describing the way it actually is. It's not me who is oversimplify, this is just the way it is used in pop culture. It doesn't matter at all how much you don't like that, because we cannot be prescriptive about actually irl usage of a word.

          Am I personally aware of the difference? Yes. I work with LLMs every day as part of my job, both as a tool and as a product.

          None of this, or what you wrote, changes that in common discourse, outside of niche communities, "AI" is synonymous with "LLM" and GPT content image generators, almost exclusively, unless other context is provided.

          So when people see "AI" in common discourse, they're almost always right to assume it means LLMs and GPT content generators.

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          Tbh in my experience LLM and other recently developed techniques such as stable diffusion are referred to as GenAI by most lay people. For both lay people and technical audience, i.e. people who work in machine learning, AI has a much broader significance.

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            Based. Nothing triggers redditors and chuds alike than recognizing the value in all art.

            ^ This matches my intentions and vision completely, so it's mine now.

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            yeah honestly I don't really care much for AI art and I think the vast majority of it looks kind of creepy in the uncanny valley sense but at least I have the self-awareness to recognize that it is a personal preference. These anti-ai bros seem to have no distinction between "I don't like <thing>" and "<thing> is unethical" on top of being just generally insufferable pricks so I try to avoid them as much as possible.

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              Tbh in my experience LLM and other recently developed techniques such as stable diffusion are referred to as GenAI by most lay people. For both lay people and technical audience, i.e. people who work in machine learning, AI has a much broader significance.

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              The people I see using "gen AI" are people who are peripheral to the experts or enthusiasts (be it enthusiastically for or against).

              They're not the people making the LLMs, they're the people integrating LLMs into their own products, or they're part or sales or procurement for such products. Gen-ai is very much the b2b marketing speak for these technologies.

              But I don't see it used as often in the broader context of social media or mainstream media, outside of the niches that those experts and enthusiasts frequent.

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                yeah honestly I don't really care much for AI art and I think the vast majority of it looks kind of creepy in the uncanny valley sense but at least I have the self-awareness to recognize that it is a personal preference. These anti-ai bros seem to have no distinction between "I don't like <thing>" and "<thing> is unethical" on top of being just generally insufferable pricks so I try to avoid them as much as possible.

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                I am one of those people.

                <thing> is unethical because it is an anti-social technology.

                I was fine with cleverbot 10 or 15 years ago, but that was when the human mimicry was cute and funny, and didn't threaten to kill all human-to-human contact online by smothering it to death.

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                • H [email protected]

                  Every art is pulled from the efforts and thoughts of million others.

                  Star Wars is pulled from Dune, which on itself was based upon Middle Eastern History and Religions.

                  Everything is build on the shoulders of giants.

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                  Ideas pulled only from the efforts and thoughts of a million others is typically called plagiarism.

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                  • P [email protected]

                    The people I see using "gen AI" are people who are peripheral to the experts or enthusiasts (be it enthusiastically for or against).

                    They're not the people making the LLMs, they're the people integrating LLMs into their own products, or they're part or sales or procurement for such products. Gen-ai is very much the b2b marketing speak for these technologies.

                    But I don't see it used as often in the broader context of social media or mainstream media, outside of the niches that those experts and enthusiasts frequent.

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                    Fair enough, that seems accurate!

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                    • darkdarkhouse@lemmy.sdf.orgD [email protected]

                      Not sure why you're getting downvoted, most video game enemies do not learn. They can have some clever algorithms, but they don't know anything about how you've responded in the past and which of their tactics work better against you. Have they been trained on player interaction at all? I would love to see some learning NPCs in games and would be happy to dial down graphics settings to power them instead.

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                      I'm getting downvoted because there are too many morons who now think they know computer science just because they use "AI"... Such a pathetic lot literally ignorant to their own ignorance.

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                      • P [email protected]

                        And there go the insults and attacks. Just what I was talking about in the beginning: anti ai people are way more extremist, way more obnoxious. You don't even know where I stand, for you it's enough to know I'm not 110% on your side and that's enough to attack.

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                        You are the one getting offended by someone telling you accurately that you're mistaking a marketing term. Does your pathetic insecurity have no limits?

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                        • P [email protected]

                          More attacks, more insults.

                          You are adamant to continue proving my point.

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                          Your inability to address my point peoves mine. Good jpb being offended by mostly benign language. You only prove your mind is weaker than your feelings. Truly, a pathetic excuse for humanity. Just as dumb as a "mindless animal". "AI" will have no problem replacing your lack of quality.

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                            You are the one getting offended by someone telling you accurately that you're mistaking a marketing term. Does your pathetic insecurity have no limits?

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                            Ah, more insults.
                            You have bested me, sir. I can't compete with such rhetorical prowess. Bravo.

                            Goodbye.

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                              Your inability to address my point peoves mine. Good jpb being offended by mostly benign language. You only prove your mind is weaker than your feelings. Truly, a pathetic excuse for humanity. Just as dumb as a "mindless animal". "AI" will have no problem replacing your lack of quality.

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                              Go on. Show everyone how obnoxious you are.

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                              • zagorath@aussie.zoneZ [email protected]

                                There definitely is a very real "AI derangement syndrome" kinda thing going around among some. It's like...we can be opposed to the use of AI to take away people's jobs while simultaneously dumbing down culture, without throwing out the ways it can actually be used by workers to improve their work output or the experience for them of doing the work. I'm not familiar with Kdenlive, but it sounds similar to Photoshop's generative fill, and that's a fantastic feature. Using AI to do a better version of what content-aware fill has done for over a decade. People who are opposed even to these uses need to pull their heads in, because they make it much harder to effectively oppose the real problems with AI.

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                                content-aware fill was even started as a fucking GIMP plugin of all things

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                                • P [email protected]

                                  Go on. Show everyone how obnoxious you are.

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                                  My interest is only in proving your lack of substance, which is already thoroughly established.

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                                    My interest is only in proving your lack of substance, which is already thoroughly established.

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                                    Ah, no more childish insults?
                                    You finally looked at the mirror.
                                    Good on you.

                                    Take care. Bye.

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                                      Ah, no more childish insults?
                                      You finally looked at the mirror.
                                      Good on you.

                                      Take care. Bye.

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                                      Your flippant nature only furthers my point. Thank you for making this exchange as immature as your underdeveloped brain.

                                      Mr, "I don't believe even copyright should exist" has nothing of substance to contribute. Makes sense!

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