Mandatory jail term for Nazi salute under new hate crime rules in Australia
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As an American, this feels wrong on the surface with our broad first amendment and all.
They do not give a rat's fuck about YOUR freedom of speech and expression, and have been fighting in every single legal and illegal manner to suppress it. At this point in time it must be acknowledged that there needs to be that limit on them to force them back into being a small pathetic group that they were and to hopefully allow society to outgrow them in the future.
They will be 'so much for the tolerant left' so matter what you do, and they will actively censor anyone and anything they don't like also no matter what. Liberals have been highly prone to hiring fascist and bigoted nutjobs in order to allow for a more 'balanced' perspective, but any attempt to make them hire more liberal minded people for their own platforms is brushed aside without a second thought. That shit doesn't work on them. They want access to your stuff while also 100% forbidding you from even looking at their stuff.
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No disagreement on the reality of the evil bullshit going on around here, that’s for sure. It was just a throwaway line on my part to set up the comment, but as always the devil is in the details.
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but…
That's where you lost me.
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Sure! What's worthy of more punishment, stealing packages from your neighbors doorstep or doing a Nazi salute? How about assaulting someone and mugging them? I think those are both worse than a nazi salute and deserving of more punishment. A Nazi salute wouldn't affect me at all except to be annoyed at their idiocy. Beating me up or stealing my stuff definitely impacts me. I don't have a clear idea of how much punishment is reasonable, but probably something less than the punishment for petty theft. That's my two cents.
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Well, as im sure you are aware, once a label is given power, then it can and will inevitably be used for other purposes. If you can jail people who have been labeled as nazis or terrorists or whatever, then it's just a matter of time until that label gets abused.
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Thank you for that perspective. It is sad to see all that diligence being chipped away.
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It depends upon whether Australian prisons are focused on rehabilitation or punishment.
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Where did I say that I do that or that I think it's okay? Or are you so blinded by rage that you have to go to this?
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Excellent, then I'm all for it.
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Cool dude
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Fair point, best explained response yet.
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