Mandatory jail term for Nazi salute under new hate crime rules in Australia
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Excellent, then I'm all for it.
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Cool dude
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Fair point, best explained response yet.
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The part where it's raising your arm at an angle. You dislike it because of what it means and signifies, but imagine some group took 'flipping the bird' to align with their ideology and in 20 years your kid gets arrested for flipping someone off.
Obviously a silly example but you have to look past the context and think about what are we really doing here? Jailing people for a gesture?
That's fucking wild.
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Hey now! Australia is probably sick of everyone just sending criminals there!
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I don’t see how mandatory jail time helps with “They need to reeducate the people”
Jail doesn't work for Nazis. The world learned only one things solves the "fascism problem".
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The answer to the German question is that they spend a great deal of money on having an excellent education system,
I think it was more that they had their country completely flattened due to them being fascists, and didn't want it to happen again.
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In WW2, the concentration camps and the Holocaust didn't break any German or international laws. This is the first case where the charge of crimes against humanity was used.
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Back to the Nazi, separate them from the rest of society.
Permanently. Like how we permanently separated Nazis from the rest of the world in the 1940s.
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They can still easily identify each other online, social groups, clubs, etc. I would think that's how most of these people get together anyway, and not from some rando on the street throwing up a nazi salute. Making the gesture illegal also doesn't solve why people are this way. It doesn't solve the problem. It just covers it up (imo).
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Wow I never thought about this but would not be surprised at the development. If you vertically integrate the company that controls the satellites, the company that launches them into orbit, the govt that oversees it all, etc, you could just send whatever up there, especially with hundreds of launches and satellites.
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Please quote what you think I said that suggests I am showing any rage.
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But then how do you define hate speech?
Also, this:
Maybe they did it without knowing what it meant to you, or maybe they thought it was funny, or maybe they were trying to normalize and legitimize hatred of Jews.
None of those things make a Nazi salute acceptable. Literally nothing makes it acceptable. You're now on the level of people who have been defending Elon Musk for it, I hope you realize that.
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Those were the exceptions. When it came to things like medical science with experiments on POWs and concentration camp prisoners they were so abysmal it wasn't funny.
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Yeah nah. Any law is ripe for abuse by fascists.
To me the law is less about punishing Nazis and more of a clear statement that as a society we find this ideology unacceptable.
