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With the Legion Go S, we can now directly compare performance between official builds of SteamOS and Windows

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  • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

    I disagree. Take Windows, remove the bloat, slap a game-focused GUI on it, call it XBOX and Bob's your uncle.

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    There are rumors they plan to do this with the first Xbox handheld.

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    • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

      I dont know if there will ever be a year of the linux desktop

      There won't be. It won't happen that quickly. If anything there will be a "decade of the Linux computer".

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      Which I feel like were are at the beginning of, steam and proton are catalyzing the decade of linux right now.

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        Why? Isn't SteamOS a stripped down version of Linux?

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        SteamOS is a full Linux build, it's just a different distro like Fedora, Ubuntu, mint, etc, etc

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        • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

          SteamOS build might've been tweaked and worked on more to be more optimized

          What does that mean? Of course it was. Why would I take that with salt?

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          Well, SteamOS vs base Windows isn’t really a good comparison. Best would be optimized Windows vs gaming only distro, or base windows vs base distro

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            I’d love to know what windows figures would be like with a stripped down guts ripped out windows, such as revi.cc.

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            pls dont suggest this blatantly obvious russian/us/chinese surveillance tool jesus chriat pls dont tell me people actually use this... if youre worried about security use a hardened linux distro this is just crazy

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              pls dont suggest this blatantly obvious russian/us/chinese surveillance tool jesus chriat pls dont tell me people actually use this... if youre worried about security use a hardened linux distro this is just crazy

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              Care to explain ?

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                If you don't mind me asking:
                What problems did you run into?
                And what distro were you using?

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                I've tested out Manjaro, KDE Neon, Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Debian, Mint, and Fedora - across two desktops and a laptop.

                Problems have been all over the spectrum. Not being to install at all, trouble getting it to dual boot after installing (despite following a guide), getting NAS drives to be writeable, hardware compatibility, finding alternatives to proprietary software which may or may not do everything the original did, and more.

                I'm semi enjoying the tinkering for now, and I'm not regretting trying to de-Windows as much as possible, but I think people who say Linux is ready for mainstream are out of touch with the average person's computer literacy.

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                  Well, SteamOS vs base Windows isn’t really a good comparison. Best would be optimized Windows vs gaming only distro, or base windows vs base distro

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                  Best would be optimized Windows

                  What is "optimized Windows"? Windows is Windows. There's no gaming-focused version.

                  gaming only distro

                  There's no such thing, to my knowledge.

                  base windows vs base distro

                  What is a "base distro"?

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                  • fubarberry@sopuli.xyzF [email protected]

                    Source is this video:

                    Windows Was The Problem All Along - Dave2D

                    We could obviously compare performance between windows and steamOS before on the steam deck, or between windows and Bazzite on other handhelds. But this is the first time we have had official windows and SteamOS builds for the same hardware.

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                    I am a little curious how something like Ubuntu would do on one of these gaming handhelds. Steam OS is a nicer user experience but I always wonder if it also adds any significant optimization.

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                      I've tested out Manjaro, KDE Neon, Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Debian, Mint, and Fedora - across two desktops and a laptop.

                      Problems have been all over the spectrum. Not being to install at all, trouble getting it to dual boot after installing (despite following a guide), getting NAS drives to be writeable, hardware compatibility, finding alternatives to proprietary software which may or may not do everything the original did, and more.

                      I'm semi enjoying the tinkering for now, and I'm not regretting trying to de-Windows as much as possible, but I think people who say Linux is ready for mainstream are out of touch with the average person's computer literacy.

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                      dual booting anything with windows (including another copy of windows) is an insufferable nightmare caused by windows.

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                      • toodd@lemmy.blahaj.zoneT [email protected]

                        dual booting anything with windows (including another copy of windows) is an insufferable nightmare caused by windows.

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                        Not all instances were dual booting, nor are all of the problems I've encountered or described above related with dual booting.

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                          Even gamers do more than just game on their PC, though.

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                          Most people just need a web browser for most of their needs, unless you have a need for a specific software that's Windows only and doesn't have a good Linux alternative,

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                            Not all instances were dual booting, nor are all of the problems I've encountered or described above related with dual booting.

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                            👍 completely valid. just pointing out windows is a malicious cohabitant on a drive

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                              I am a little curious how something like Ubuntu would do on one of these gaming handhelds. Steam OS is a nicer user experience but I always wonder if it also adds any significant optimization.

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                              What do you mean? It's just steamos is arch linux with a fancy suit.

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                                👍 completely valid. just pointing out windows is a malicious cohabitant on a drive

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                                Even among that I've varied. In one installation I have Windows sharing a drive, separate partition for Linux. In another computer they're on completely different drives.

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                                  I am a little curious how something like Ubuntu would do on one of these gaming handhelds. Steam OS is a nicer user experience but I always wonder if it also adds any significant optimization.

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                                  I think you're a bit better off with SteamOS's gamescope rather than going through gnome-shell.

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                                    Even gamers do more than just game on their PC, though.

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                                    Most people dont use Windows because its compatible with more software, they use it because thats what their computer came with. If computers just starting shipping Linux then software will come.

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                                    • fubarberry@sopuli.xyzF [email protected]

                                      Source is this video:

                                      Windows Was The Problem All Along - Dave2D

                                      We could obviously compare performance between windows and steamOS before on the steam deck, or between windows and Bazzite on other handhelds. But this is the first time we have had official windows and SteamOS builds for the same hardware.

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                                      Goes to show how much bloat is in Windows that it kills hardware like this.

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                                        I could barely get Minecraft to run 20fps on this old laptop I had given to me a few years ago. Loaded Ubuntu on it and Minecraft ran near 60fps. Blew my mind.

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                                        Pull the DE out and you could probably squeeze that performance out on a modded instance

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                                          Goes to show how much bloat is in Windows that it kills hardware like this.

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                                          Maybe I need Cortana, Microsoft Excel, and OneDrive while I play Doom Eternal. You don't know me.

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