With the Legion Go S, we can now directly compare performance between official builds of SteamOS and Windows
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What do you mean? It's just steamos is arch linux with a fancy suit.
Arch can be configured many different ways.
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It sounds a lot like what the GPU driver providers used to do (and probably still do, despite all DX12 and Vulkan's promises of making that unnecessary) on top of making the drivers.
And that is basically "fixing badly written games so they perform well on the hardware".
As far as I can tell, Intel has been using
Proton's fixesDXVK to get their drivers working on older games on WindowsDXVK is not "Proton's fixes". It exists as a separate entity whose development Valve has helped fund and who Valve devs have directly contributed to.
Proton's fixes are out-of-tree tweaks to DXVK, Wine and VKD3D that, put together, make games work much more seamlessly and smoothly than they otherwise would.
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Why is it confusing? Maybe I’m confused, not sure.
wrote last edited by [email protected]why is fps labeled with hours and minutes? what is "dead cells" and why is it also labeled hours and minutes?
edit wow i was even more confused about it than i thought. what a terrible graph.
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Why is it confusing? Maybe I’m confused, not sure.
The Legion Go is on top and on the bottom, with the Deck in between. And the color scheme isn't helping.
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I am a little curious how something like Ubuntu would do on one of these gaming handhelds. Steam OS is a nicer user experience but I always wonder if it also adds any significant optimization.
iirc the original SteamOS for the SteamBox was Debian-based (like Ubuntu), i think they switched it to Arch since it moves a bit faster and offers a bit better compatibility.
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Holy shit triple the hours
Finally an extra 3 1/2 hours of... dead cells? 3 more hours of... FPS? the hell is this graph?
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why is fps labeled with hours and minutes? what is "dead cells" and why is it also labeled hours and minutes?
edit wow i was even more confused about it than i thought. what a terrible graph.
The title is battery life, that’s why it’s hours and minutes. Dead Cells is a video game.
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The title is battery life, that’s why it’s hours and minutes. Dead Cells is a video game.
wrote last edited by [email protected]yeah it took me a while, it's an awful graph and i haven't had coffee yet
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Cool, can you run video rendering software on it? How about some cli? Can you delete packages? Or even remove the french language?
yes, it's a desktop OS. it's literally arch linux. i have a friend who slaps the steamos recovery image on every pc now and just uses it as their go-to daily driver.
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Valve doubling down on Linux as the default OS on the Steam Deck was such a great decision. It obviously has given them a massive competitive edge. Windows has become so horribly bloated, and Microsoft has almost zero interest in making it run more efficiently.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Personally I feel what it gave them - primarily - was the ability to be independent of Microsoft, not beholden to them in any way whatsoever, and not having to pay them any license fees.
The fact that after putting so much work into making Proton and that whole toolchain amazing it actually turned out faster than Windows, well, that's juat the delicious icing on the cake, from a commercial perspective.
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iirc the original SteamOS for the SteamBox was Debian-based (like Ubuntu), i think they switched it to Arch since it moves a bit faster and offers a bit better compatibility.
No, they switched because Arch has a rolling release
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No, they switched because Arch has a rolling release
i know but it's a thread full of windows gamers and that's more or less the important takeaway for them. i know there's a lot more to it than that.
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What is "optimized Windows"? Windows is Windows. There's no gaming-focused version.
Removing / disabling useless services, tweaking registry…
There's no such thing, to my knowledge.
SteamOS sure looks like one. Gaming focused if you prefer. I’ve seen a couple on Linux, though I don’t remember their name rn.
What is a "base distro"?
Something like Ubuntu or Mint, which would be more comparable to a desktop experience like windows, ready for productivity
Removing / disabling useless services, tweaking registry…
That's the opposite of comparable since none of that was done on Steam OS.
I’ve seen a couple on Linux, though I don’t remember their name rn.
"Gaming Focused" distros aren't anything special outside of having some pre-installed software.
Something like Ubuntu or Mint, which would be more comparable to a desktop experience like windows, ready for productivity
SteamOS has all of those same productivity tools but I'm not sure how that's relevant to performance.
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Even gamers do more than just game on their PC, though.
It's gotten so seamless now, and wine has gotten pretty good. I can download a Windows executable, double click it, go through the regular Windows installer, and then have it make a shortcut on my desktop which will launch it.
Your average user won't even know all the Dark Magics making it possible, or that they were supposed to have looked around for a Linux alternative, it just works
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Source is this video:
Windows Was The Problem All Along - Dave2D
We could obviously compare performance between windows and steamOS before on the steam deck, or between windows and Bazzite on other handhelds. But this is the first time we have had official windows and SteamOS builds for the same hardware.
Valve won. Maybe it's lucky timing, or maybe Gabe is actually a genius, but it's only going to get worse for Windows as there is no way in hell Microsoft shifts resources from AI projects to make Windows better for PC gaming. Recently, Capcom announced that their PC gaming sales surpassed their console sales, and I don't think it's likely we'll see that trend changing, and it's also likely other publishers will make similar announcements soon (although idk if they count SteamOS as a console). The Switch 2 is coming out soon, but people already say it's too expensive, and there are controversies surrounding some of their product decisions.
Will this bring about the era of the Linux desktop? Idk, but the era of the Linux gaming PC is inevitable now.
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No, they switched because Arch has a rolling release
Potayto potahto
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Thibking bout that time a discord admin told me windows and linux use the same amount of resources and she knows cause she works in it.
Well yeah duh windows and Linux use the same resources. I don't put more memory in my computer when I boot into Linux...
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I've tested out Manjaro, KDE Neon, Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Debian, Mint, and Fedora - across two desktops and a laptop.
Problems have been all over the spectrum. Not being to install at all, trouble getting it to dual boot after installing (despite following a guide), getting NAS drives to be writeable, hardware compatibility, finding alternatives to proprietary software which may or may not do everything the original did, and more.
I'm semi enjoying the tinkering for now, and I'm not regretting trying to de-Windows as much as possible, but I think people who say Linux is ready for mainstream are out of touch with the average person's computer literacy.
Oh ok very interesting.
Thanks for the insight.And good luck
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Valve won. Maybe it's lucky timing, or maybe Gabe is actually a genius, but it's only going to get worse for Windows as there is no way in hell Microsoft shifts resources from AI projects to make Windows better for PC gaming. Recently, Capcom announced that their PC gaming sales surpassed their console sales, and I don't think it's likely we'll see that trend changing, and it's also likely other publishers will make similar announcements soon (although idk if they count SteamOS as a console). The Switch 2 is coming out soon, but people already say it's too expensive, and there are controversies surrounding some of their product decisions.
Will this bring about the era of the Linux desktop? Idk, but the era of the Linux gaming PC is inevitable now.
Will Steam do for the gaming PC what porn did for the internet?
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I've tested out Manjaro, KDE Neon, Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Debian, Mint, and Fedora - across two desktops and a laptop.
Problems have been all over the spectrum. Not being to install at all, trouble getting it to dual boot after installing (despite following a guide), getting NAS drives to be writeable, hardware compatibility, finding alternatives to proprietary software which may or may not do everything the original did, and more.
I'm semi enjoying the tinkering for now, and I'm not regretting trying to de-Windows as much as possible, but I think people who say Linux is ready for mainstream are out of touch with the average person's computer literacy.
If you want gaming you should try the nobara distro, great stuff
