Teddybears - Punkrocker
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It's for the greater good.
The greater good!
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Absolutely.
I know people can call superman boring, but to me what makes him even more amazing is that he has enough power to basically dominate everyone... But he doesn't, he always chooses to do the right thing and tries to give people a second chance.
It's part of the reason Zach Schneider's Superman sucked balls, because they tried to make him some dark edge lord that literally kills in the first fucking movie.
Supes is the last hero that remains as some sort of beacon of hope and fairness, which naturally goes against the fascist mindset.
A red hatter cannot comprehend having power and not using it to subjugate or enforce your will. It simply does not compute in their lead infested brains.
I think it's a challenge to make superman interesting because he's both so powerful and so good. That's why, when I read / watch DC stuff, I like it when he's a side character, not the main character. I think Captain America is the Marvel universe's equivalent of Superman in terms of personality / attitude. But, he doesn't have anywhere near Superman's power, which is why it's easier to write interesting stories with him.
You're completely right that that's the mindblowing part of Superman -- that he has all this power, but he doesn't use it to reshape the world. Instead, he saves people from dying, whenever he can. And, he stops people from hurting other people.
I think a lot of the conservative mindset is that there are people who are supposed to be at the top, and people who are supposed to be at the bottom. If you're at the top, it's because you deserve to be there. If you deserve to be there, you have the right to impose your will on the people below you. Superman is undeniably at the top in terms of power, but he refuses to wield his power. That doesn't make sense if your world view is that might is right.
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Superman is such a good, kind-hearted hero
Oh yeah, no flaws, no notes
I feel like this might need some context.
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I saw no lies in their comment?
I never said they lied, I said they were right and blind blind at the same time.
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Conservative culture creates whiney little bitch-made motherfuckers that have no meaning in their lives beyond clinging to imaginary grievances. The state of the world would be marginally better if we all learned to stop giving them attention.
Because "woke"/liberal/left/PC mob/etc arent the exact same thing just coming from the other side? For every right wing grifter, theres a left wing grifter do the same thing. Winding everyone up.
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By dehumanizing them you're no different. Treat your enemies with respect, they are human too, just dumb pieces of shit. Don't lower yourself to their level. Be better than them.
wrote last edited by [email protected]No, people who sherk their humanity, willingly and emphatically, do NOT deserve to be humanized. Yes, we need to remember they are humans, but they are terrible people who choose to be terrible. Only a fucking moron or a fellow terrible person thinks they deserve to be treated better than they treat others.
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The thing is, I'm not pleading for their respect. I won't get it. I just won't lower myself to their level so I will not grant them the argument "see, they are doing the same".
wrote last edited by [email protected]If you do not understand the principles of defending the humanity you love from the people who want to destroy it, then you are WORSE THAN USELESS. These people are actively destroying society and the very "humanity" you want to preserve... yet you still won't attack them??
You are nothing but a useful idiot to fascists with that kind of pacifist attitude... Literally. You are talking down others from action against the things you want to defend from... You're actively a turncoat against the humanity you want to defend. Seriously, pathetic.
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No, people who sherk their humanity, willingly and emphatically, do NOT deserve to be humanized. Yes, we need to remember they are humans, but they are terrible people who choose to be terrible. Only a fucking moron or a fellow terrible person thinks they deserve to be treated better than they treat others.
That's the excuse for Hamas to commit terrorist acts on Israel. It's also the excuse for Israel to commit the worst war crimes of this century by far. Lowering yourself to the level of the enemy makes you just as bad. Be better.
I think very little of them, I'm disgusted by them, I hate them with everything I've got, but I will not dehumanize them or justify crimes against humanity against them. No matter whether they would do that to me. They deserve consequences for their behavior. They need to be sentenced for their crimes. Legally, democratically, within the law. If we don't, how are we any different? They think they are better humans than others, you know, like the nazis. Untermenschen. If you're not a nazi, fascist or racist, you won't dehumanize others.
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If you do not understand the principles of defending the humanity you love from the people who want to destroy it, then you are WORSE THAN USELESS. These people are actively destroying society and the very "humanity" you want to preserve... yet you still won't attack them??
You are nothing but a useful idiot to fascists with that kind of pacifist attitude... Literally. You are talking down others from action against the things you want to defend from... You're actively a turncoat against the humanity you want to defend. Seriously, pathetic.
Who said I won't attack them? Of course I would, and have. But within the law, without dehumanizing them.
You call me pathetic, although I'm actively fighting against the far right, oppression and crimes against humanity.
You, on the other hand, show you are just as bad as they are.
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It's probably the main reason that there are games about pretty much every superhero going, but Superman always gets skipped. Superman 64 is the classic example, due to how dire it was. There's been a few attempts since then, but nothing popular and the last was about 20 years ago.
The only real threat to Superman is to attack the things he cares about.
I kind of like the subversion of Superman type characters, like Dr Manhattan (what if Superman was indifferent?) or Homelander (what if Superman was a cunt?)
Maybe a decent Superman game could emphasize the D in DC comics; and have you mostly play as Clark Kent trying to solve a mystery, occasionally using X-Ray vision or Super Speed to gather facts. A common challenge might be trying to get past a security desk to find answers without triggering any alarms or causing the guard harm.
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No, people who sherk their humanity, willingly and emphatically, do NOT deserve to be humanized. Yes, we need to remember they are humans, but they are terrible people who choose to be terrible. Only a fucking moron or a fellow terrible person thinks they deserve to be treated better than they treat others.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Whether they deserve it or not, I won't dehumanize them; because I don't want to become someone who dehumanizes others.
I will certainly fight them, I will resist them, but I will not consider them anything but human.
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Death of Superman, Reign of Supermen, Superman Allstar. There are many film/scenarios, where superman has to fight someone actually stronger than he is. Even in Justice League Dark Apokolips, he is captured first, and then injected with Kryptonite.
Your friend needs to watch/read more DC content.
Some more examples with spoilers below.
::: spoiler Tap for spoiler
He even got mind controlled by Poison Ivy once. Hell, in the new game, Suicide Squad Kill The Justice League, he is mind controlled by Brainiac, and Wonder Woman having Kryptonite didn't protect her from Superman.Superman has also done questionable things, even without being mind controlled, like in Batman The Dark Knight Returns Part 2, it is implied that he ripped out one arm of Oliver Queen, aka, Green Arrow, who was also member of Justice League, because the government of USA wanted to stop vigilantes. Then he also almost killed Batman, after being almost killed by Batman.
:::I think power on that scale gets harder to parse, a little bit like Dragonball Z fights. Many of Goku's adversaries are capable of destroying whole planets, which makes anything else that happens in a season feel insignificant.
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Because "woke"/liberal/left/PC mob/etc arent the exact same thing just coming from the other side? For every right wing grifter, theres a left wing grifter do the same thing. Winding everyone up.
One side is actively building a fascist state. The other is not. Sit down.
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At the same time, I like that the antagonists of the boys are people with nuance.
The best shows and stories are ones where both sides believe they are doing what is best for everyone, but disagree on what's best for everyone... Like Thanos. His idea was good in concept, his execution? Not great.
Man, bit of a tangent, but even as a fast thought experiment, Thanos's idea was bad. Just his motivation was (debatably) good.
The problem is, the vast majority of species populations can easily double in a generation, given plentiful resources - and plentiful resources was what he was aiming for! Even if everything went exactly as he thought it would, he's just kicked the can down the road for one generation.
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He has outlined this explicitly multiple times in every appearance he’s ever made in anything. It takes a dangerously fucking stupid individual to use him as a symbol for police or justice. The creator of The Punisher has even outlined this in real life too many times to mention.
At this point, my best guess is these guys just don't actually read any Punisher material.
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The funniest thing is that the superhero they have a problem with is Superman.
If it were Batman, that would be different. Batman isn't a pure-hearted hero, he's a more complex character. If it had been someone in the X-Men, or pretty much any Avenger other than Captain America, there would be room for a discussion.
But, Superman is such a good, kind-hearted hero that it's basically impossible to be a good person and be anti-Superman.
Batman is just a rich guy playing edgy superhero.
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Just verification that they know their views are despicable at some level, even if they refuse to admit it to themselves.
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Who said I won't attack them? Of course I would, and have. But within the law, without dehumanizing them.
You call me pathetic, although I'm actively fighting against the far right, oppression and crimes against humanity.
You, on the other hand, show you are just as bad as they are.
within the law
lol
their death camps will be perfectly legal
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within the law
lol
their death camps will be perfectly legal
They're not, but is that an excuse to be lawless too? If the enemy commits war crimes, how are you any better if you do the same?
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At this point, my best guess is these guys just don't actually read any Punisher material.
wrote last edited by [email protected]They don’t. And to top it off they probably make fun of people who do read comics. Like when republicans were up in arms about Jon Kent being bi screaming “THEY MADE SUPERMAN GAY!” Mother fuckers, you don’t even know who the fuck Jon Kent is.
