Plex now want to SELL your personal data
-
You struggled to set up Jellyfin with docker?
Damn
I am a devops engineer and application architect who spends their entire day developing automated docker deployments for custom applications from scratch and I manage all our reverse proxies and TLS termination and certificates.
5 years ago, I wouldn’t have been able to tell you what a docker container really was. Thankfully migrating legacy apps to docker on Linux hosts is my full time job and it has allowed me to become proficient enough in a fairly short amount of time.
We all have to start somewhere and shitting on someone for not knowing something now will dissuade them from ever learning it and potentially remove a future contributor to the open source tech stack before they ever even get started.
-
I am using the Plex app on my LG TV, to be more precise. That's the WebOS version of Plex. On my phone and on the web, it loads instantly.
haiyaaa...that explains it.
I have never had a smart TV worth a damn.
-
Then how did you use Plex? Did you even RTFM?
You can run plexserver as a service outside of docker. That's how I ran it years ago, before I got comfortable with docker.
-
imagine not being behind a CGNAT in current year
if you're not paying a fucking mint for a real IPv4 address never tell anyone, it's a mistake.
Lol, I'm not. My ISP does not use cgnat and offers symmetrical bandwidth nationwide.
Feels good not being American.
Port forwarding is a breeze to me and my NAS. Id be willing to switch to JF if I can seamlessly setup the connection, even with my lifetime Plexpass.
-
If you connect to the internet from 2 or 3 different locations, the hashed email will be the same, so they just need to compare the locations to those from another service like Instagram and they know who you are and what you're streaming.
And? Why should we care? If I'm already using instagram and other social media platforms that we all know do this, I am clearly ok with it aren't I?
-
Text:
I consent to Plex to: (i) sell certain personal information (hashed emails, advertising identifiers) to third-parties for advertising and marketing purposes; and (ii) store and/or access certain personal information (advertising identifiers, IP address, content being watched) on my device(s) and share that information with Plex’s advertising partners. This data is used to deliver personalised ads and content, ad and content measurement, audience insights and product development. Your consent applies to all devices on which you have Plex installed. You can withdraw your consent at any time in
Account Settings or using this page.Soure: https://www.plex.tv/vendors/
(Might have to clear cache)Can also read about the changes here:
https://www.plex.tv/about/privacy-legal/so whats the issue? just declining doesn't work?
-
Text:
I consent to Plex to: (i) sell certain personal information (hashed emails, advertising identifiers) to third-parties for advertising and marketing purposes; and (ii) store and/or access certain personal information (advertising identifiers, IP address, content being watched) on my device(s) and share that information with Plex’s advertising partners. This data is used to deliver personalised ads and content, ad and content measurement, audience insights and product development. Your consent applies to all devices on which you have Plex installed. You can withdraw your consent at any time in
Account Settings or using this page.Soure: https://www.plex.tv/vendors/
(Might have to clear cache)Can also read about the changes here:
https://www.plex.tv/about/privacy-legal/I feel like I know the answer but what happens if you click "I do not agree"?
-
Isn't it proprietary?
It is, but also incredibly quick, easy to use etc.
Everything Plex used to be in the good old days imo!
-
Jellyfin is hardly a no-brainer. I set it up out of curiosity a few weeks ago and my first question was how do I give access to my friends and family. So I searched, and all of the results were talking about setting up a VPN or a reverse proxy or whatever. Man, I just want to tell my mom "install this app on your tv and log in", which is exactly what Plex does.
I get that Plex is enshittifying, but pretending Jellyfin is a drop-in replacement is delusional.
and all of the results were talking about setting up a VPN or a reverse proxy or whatever. Man, I just want to tell my mom "install this app on your tv and log in",
This is why I use Yunohost. It makes all of that just a "click buttons" affair. Then you can tell your Mom the same thing. Only the domain is yours so Jellyfin can't hold it over your head.
-
I think Emby failed to get a lot of momentum due to having hardware acceleration behind a paywall, and then having jellyfin out there offering it for free. When I was first getting away from plex, emby was my first stop, and then I moved over to jellyfin shortly after because of the hardware acceleration situation.
Yeah that’s definitely true. I gladly pay for Emby and thing it’s worth every penny for how I use it. Jellyfin has got to be the best free+open one for sure.
-
The whole anti Google holier than thou is annoying at these levels.
Ok fine, don't use Google. But telling your friends and loved ones to switch email providers over your crusade is worse than vegans telling you about their diet.
I'm all for kicking Google to the curb. I'm not for shoving my beliefs down other people's throats.
telling your friends and loved ones to switch email providers over your crusade
-
It has nothing to do with email
-
It's not a personal crusade. Everyone should be trying to get people away from Google. They are an absolutely fucked corporation who makes a fortune spying on you and everyone you know.
-
-
Text:
I consent to Plex to: (i) sell certain personal information (hashed emails, advertising identifiers) to third-parties for advertising and marketing purposes; and (ii) store and/or access certain personal information (advertising identifiers, IP address, content being watched) on my device(s) and share that information with Plex’s advertising partners. This data is used to deliver personalised ads and content, ad and content measurement, audience insights and product development. Your consent applies to all devices on which you have Plex installed. You can withdraw your consent at any time in
Account Settings or using this page.Soure: https://www.plex.tv/vendors/
(Might have to clear cache)Can also read about the changes here:
https://www.plex.tv/about/privacy-legal/python -m http.server is still my media server of choice. It's never let me down.
-
You can install a plugin to add SSO.
Did you notice that they're using a local connection? Still requires VPN/reverse proxy to get it outside the home.
-
We have over 15,000 videos in TV episodes, alone. Not counting movies.
So…yeah.
Wow. But now I had to look it up, the German "ARD Mediathek" has over 200'000 files, a playtime of 100'000 hours.
-
They're going to sell the data to movie companies so they can find out what is being pirated
I fuckin guarantee it.
Trakt did the same thing I bet
It's not hard to find out what's being pirated, BitTorrent isn't private.
-
Text:
I consent to Plex to: (i) sell certain personal information (hashed emails, advertising identifiers) to third-parties for advertising and marketing purposes; and (ii) store and/or access certain personal information (advertising identifiers, IP address, content being watched) on my device(s) and share that information with Plex’s advertising partners. This data is used to deliver personalised ads and content, ad and content measurement, audience insights and product development. Your consent applies to all devices on which you have Plex installed. You can withdraw your consent at any time in
Account Settings or using this page.Soure: https://www.plex.tv/vendors/
(Might have to clear cache)Can also read about the changes here:
https://www.plex.tv/about/privacy-legal/This is specifically related to watching their free content. You can opt out of the sale & sharing of said data, which is used to play you targeted ads when watching their free content. I am not a big fan, but this is the typical "free" TV spiel. Was there something that changed recently or is it just being recognized now?
-
It is, but also incredibly quick, easy to use etc.
Everything Plex used to be in the good old days imo!
What makes you think it won't be victim to enshitification?
-
Oops I must have misread the price. Tbh it’s the subscription fatigue, but I’m a developer myself $12.99/year is very reasonable.
I totally get the subscription fatigue, that’s one of the main reasons I got a Plex pass whenever you could get the lifetime passes on Black Friday for a pretty decent discount. Now that all that seems to be changing I am more and more getting in the habit of paying a little bit of money annually to have more control over the things that I use.
-
I’ve had a lifetime plex pass for several years. Once I tried Jellyfin a few months ago it was all over. My “I’ll run both just in case” period lasted a week or two.
The downside is that Jellyfin will take more setup on your end, especially if you want to let other people connect securely to your server.
The upside is performance and responsiveness. Once I started using it I decided Plex had to go, even if I have to drive to each family member’s house to fix their shit. It was like moving between Linux and Windows, as far as one being designed to work and the other being designed to satisfy dozens of corporate KPIs.
Fortunately the setup for the end user is just as simple once your server is good to go. They just need URL, login, and password.
And since it’s all open source, there’s some fun diversity in clients. I use Finamp specifically for music, and there are audiobook focused ones.
Plexamp is what keeps me in the Plex ecosystem. I really like the “Mixes for you” and generating mixes based on listening habits. Have you found anything on jellyfin to do that for music?
-
Nginx/caddy, dynamic DNS, buying a domain, setting it up with cloudflare is well outside the capabilities of most people. Took me a few hours to figure out
setting it up with cloudflare
don't proxy the jellyfin domain through cloudflare. They don't like transiting video and will kill your account for it, especially if you're just a free user.
