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Microsoft tells Windows 10 users to just trade in their PC for a newer one, because how hard can it be?

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    Also IT guy. Hot take indeed. I've done this but won't support this.
    I will almost guarantee some update will break shit at the most inconvenient time humanly possible and the people you've done this for will need your help, all at the same time.

    I'm using this opportunity to expand Linux market share.

    Most people only use browser.
    People that ask me about Windows 10 eol get pushed towards Linux.

    Only if they need stuff that won't work on Linux or they really really want Windows to use Chrome or Firefox on for some reason I'll recommend complying with Microsoft's hubris.

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    I'm imagining me doing this to my building of elderly, it dies and then opening my eyes to 40 work orders. Lmao

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    • gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zoneG [email protected]

      I've already switched my mom and grandma to Linux, and I've personally only got 1 PC still on Windows. Its days are numbered though.

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      The only PC we have with Windows is my wife's, and that's because she plays an anti-cheat game. My desktop, laptop, NAS, and Steam Deck all run Linux.

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      • internetcitizen2@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

        It is, but i wanted to contextualize it for them and others reading. People sometimes have some idea that it would be impossible to port due to some inhernat aspect to linux. Might be true for something that makes heavy windows API use, but for many others its just a business case. And I wanted emphasis that a bit

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        I have never run into anyone who thinks it would be impossible to port Photoshop to Linux.

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          The problem is there are a billion versions of linux, idk what one to choosex idk if i can play my steam games on linux, everyone who talks about linux seems to be a programmer /coder, and uses jargon that i don't even understand, so idk if I'll even be able to USE linux. And if I ask any questions I feel like it's all gonna end up sounsing like another language to me.

          The whole idea of moving to linux is overwhelming.

          But I'm starting to hate windows 11. And fuck Apple all together.

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          I'm not a programmer or coder and I've been using Linux for about a year. It's been really user friendly after I figured out what distros are and which one to choose. I highly recommend Linux Mint Debian Edition. It's worked quite well for me and was not a huge jump from windows because the user interface is similar. All you need to install it is a thumb drive.

          I like playing games on steam and haven't had any issues. There's this really cool website called protondb where you can search steam game compatibility with Linux. For the few that aren't compatible, oftentimes people share fixes which usually consists of copy pasting stuff on there.

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          • sabata11792@ani.socialS [email protected]

            You can choose between Microsoft, Tesla, Google, Amazon, or Blackrock.

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            Blackrock makes some decent funds, I'll take that one.

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              I'd just be scared of windows trying to clobber my nix partition.

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              Personally, I've never had trouble even with partitions, but Windows isn't going to mess with drives that aren't NTFS.

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              • pillowtalk420@lemmy.worldP [email protected]

                sigh does it at least come with ranch or peanutbutter? Celery is better with one of those.

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                Comes with 64gb emmc & 4gb ram, soldered. Everything else is extra

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                  Just installed ZorinOS on my PC (dual boot with Windows 11) and I'm playing Diablo 4 on Linux. How cool is this?

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                  It's so cool. We've been waiting for Linux to cover gaming and it really has with the push from Steam.

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                  • steal_your_face@lemmy.mlS [email protected]

                    Bazzite is better imo

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                    I've heard people like that one. I didn't try it, but I love Nobara as my primary OS.

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                      Arrested Development tv show. Pretty funny. The family fortune started with the dad opening a banana stand in his youth.

                      ALT: 2 panels.
                      1st panel- Rich mom from Arrested Development sitcom, holding a cup, opulent home, saying "I mean it's one banana, Michael. How much could it cost? Ten dollars?"

                      2nd panel- Michael sitting back, head on hand saying "you've never actually stepped foot in a supermarket, have you?"

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                      Oh damn! I watched the show many years ago, but the joke flew straight over my head.

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                        The problem is there are a billion versions of linux, idk what one to choosex idk if i can play my steam games on linux, everyone who talks about linux seems to be a programmer /coder, and uses jargon that i don't even understand, so idk if I'll even be able to USE linux. And if I ask any questions I feel like it's all gonna end up sounsing like another language to me.

                        The whole idea of moving to linux is overwhelming.

                        But I'm starting to hate windows 11. And fuck Apple all together.

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                        Ubuntu, PopOS, or Linux Mint. All different interface, but largely identical.

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                          I will almost guarantee some update will break shit at the most inconvenient time humanly possible and the people you’ve done this for will need your help, all at the same time.

                          Well, yeah. That's life as an admin under the best circumstances. There's a running list of Windows ticking time bombs over on r/sysadmin. There are lots of good reasons to ditch Windows, but I wouldn't say the risk of MS shutting down technically unsupported hardware is one of them (because I don't agree it's a substantial risk).

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                          Well, yeah. That’s life as an admin under the best circumstances.

                          I don't disagree, but I don't see the reason in tempting this to happen.

                          I think it's interesting you're not convinced it's a reasonable risk.
                          I've had updates break things on clients under my control on several occasions, particularly post Windows 7 with the bigger feature releases.

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                            Yup. OG Ryzen had TPM but wasn't supported for Windows. Not sure if that has changed.

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                            Probably a bios update would be enough

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                              Alright then MS, (this is hypothetical as I haven't ran Windows as my main OS in years and don't plan on going back), since you want me to trade in my hardware, how 'bout I trade in your OS instead? 😛

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                                I'm not a programmer or coder and I've been using Linux for about a year. It's been really user friendly after I figured out what distros are and which one to choose. I highly recommend Linux Mint Debian Edition. It's worked quite well for me and was not a huge jump from windows because the user interface is similar. All you need to install it is a thumb drive.

                                I like playing games on steam and haven't had any issues. There's this really cool website called protondb where you can search steam game compatibility with Linux. For the few that aren't compatible, oftentimes people share fixes which usually consists of copy pasting stuff on there.

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                                Okay yeah, 2 other comments suggested Mint, I'll look into it

                                And thanks for letting me know about protondb, sounds promising!

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                                  The free OS Linux also doesn't pull this crap, and Rufus can write a Linux ISO to your USB drive and remove Microsoft's gaslighting from your life.

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                                  gaslighting

                                  Bro, i cut my teeth on FreeBSD 2.2.x and lived through the Great Linux / Windows wars of 95 and 98…

                                  but im not so sure MS ever gaslit anyone. everyone seemed to have a pretty solid perception of reality.

                                  Maybe the term gaslighting means something new to you 🤷

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                                    It's a joke from a tv show. The rich out of touch lady thinks bananas "only cost" ten dollars.

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                                    Theres always money in the banana stand!

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                                      The problem is there are a billion versions of linux, idk what one to choosex idk if i can play my steam games on linux, everyone who talks about linux seems to be a programmer /coder, and uses jargon that i don't even understand, so idk if I'll even be able to USE linux. And if I ask any questions I feel like it's all gonna end up sounsing like another language to me.

                                      The whole idea of moving to linux is overwhelming.

                                      But I'm starting to hate windows 11. And fuck Apple all together.

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                                      Linux community doesn’t help the user friendly nature of the OS, that’s true. Steam deck runs Linux so if it works on steam deck it will likely work on Linux mint or Ubuntu.

                                      Lots of terminal help and outdated forum posts make it feel difficult to manage Linux, you’re right it is overwhelming and it’s not going to have full software compatibility, but if you spend lots of time in the browser and rely on web services it works fairly well over all and is generally low maintenance if you stick to the App Store and use graphic user interfaces.

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                                        The problem is there are a billion versions of linux, idk what one to choosex idk if i can play my steam games on linux, everyone who talks about linux seems to be a programmer /coder, and uses jargon that i don't even understand, so idk if I'll even be able to USE linux. And if I ask any questions I feel like it's all gonna end up sounsing like another language to me.

                                        The whole idea of moving to linux is overwhelming.

                                        But I'm starting to hate windows 11. And fuck Apple all together.

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                                        At some point you were foreign to windows also. Everything must have also felt new and weird. The only way to make it feel not new is experience. One way to do that is to stop thinking if you choice the right one the first time. Get your mindset back to learning the whole system, keep and open mind. Go Linux Mint feel it out. Another is stay on Windows 10 and wait it out perhaps Microsoft will budge and allow outdated systems to install Windows 11 with support.

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                                          Lots of suggestions here. Here is mine peppermint OS. Simple and doesnt brake (debian based)

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