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Microsoft tells Windows 10 users to just trade in their PC for a newer one, because how hard can it be?

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  • sturgist@lemmy.caS [email protected]

    Yeah, I'm not on base Arch. I run Garuda Arch, it's a quite polished derivative.
    Things that drew me to, and kept me on Garuda:

    1. Flavours in:
      -KDE(lite & several other KDE based including a gaming flavour with options for a bunch of preconfigured programs)
      -GNOME
      -Cinnamon
      -XFCE
      -SWAY
      -i3
      -Hyprland
      -A NixOS subsystem
      -COSMIC
    2. The forums are highly active, any issues that aren't already covered in the forum the Devs are really quick to respond to. Think the longest I waited for a Dev or mod/admin to hop into a question I posted was 45mins.
    3. The gaming flavour's preconfigured bits work exceedingly well OOTB

    If you're feeling a hankering to distro-hop, I would highly recommend Garuda.

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    I'll check it out. Ive been running a single distro for almost a month which is far too long.

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      I'll check it out. Ive been running a single distro for almost a month which is far too long.

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      Yeesh! Well....now you can install every flavour of Garuda! 🀣 12 flavours should keep you busy for at least an afternoon!

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      • const_void@lemmy.mlC [email protected]

        Can you believe this company has a Chief Sustainability Officer? What the fuck do they do all day?

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        Yell at the wind

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        • sturgist@lemmy.caS [email protected]

          Yeesh! Well....now you can install every flavour of Garuda! 🀣 12 flavours should keep you busy for at least an afternoon!

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          I'm installing dr460nized first lol it looks good.

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            Always wandering why it isn' t possible for Microsoft to maintain their version and update all along. Linux can do it, Android can do it. I' m not sure about Apple.
            I switched to Linux years ago and I'm still most satisfied about my choice. My current laptop is from 2009 and can still go on for years. That is what you call sustainability

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            Android doesnt, my S8 can no longer be updated and many apps are beginning to no be supported. I love this phone, all the new ones are way too big.

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              Android doesnt, my S8 can no longer be updated and many apps are beginning to no be supported. I love this phone, all the new ones are way too big.

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              Lineageos. I'm like 1 android version behind latest on s9.

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                I can't really think of a better example of what you're talking about than that there's three other people replying to this, each recommending you use a different flavor of linux...

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                Eh, I gave them one. The others are also fine.

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                  I'm installing dr460nized first lol it looks good.

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                  Lemmy know how you get on πŸ‘

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                    I never liked Windows 10, I had way too many issues with it. However, so many companies rely on old versions of Windows and it takes them years to upgrade to the latest version. The machines I use at work still have Windows 10 installed because the software we rely on isn't compatible with Windows 11 yet. This whole "trade in your old PC for a new one" is ridiculous. Thankfully there's many Linux distros that work with older hardware so you don't need Windows!

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                      The problem is there are a billion versions of linux, idk what one to choosex idk if i can play my steam games on linux, everyone who talks about linux seems to be a programmer /coder, and uses jargon that i don't even understand, so idk if I'll even be able to USE linux. And if I ask any questions I feel like it's all gonna end up sounsing like another language to me.

                      The whole idea of moving to linux is overwhelming.

                      But I'm starting to hate windows 11. And fuck Apple all together.

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                      My 72 year old, non techy father in law had a laptop that could not be updated to Windows 11 without modifying the installer to get around Microsoft limitations. I suggested Linux, He decided to just buy a new laptop with Windows 11 on it. About a week later he was complaining about the way Microsoft was forcing him to have an online account and how he wanted to get rid of onedrive. I suggested Linux again and he said why not?

                      I installed Linux Mint for him and gave him the password. I offered to show him around but he said he would take a look at it and let me know if he has trouble doing anything.

                      Its been a few months now, and he hasn't had any problems or even questions. Everything is just working for him.

                      I also gave my 16 year old daughter a Linux Mint laptop and the password a couple of years ago. She uses it all the time and has never asked for help in figuring out how to do anything.

                      The distro doesn't really matter too much, but if you are coming from Windows 7 or 10, Linux Mint will seem very familiar to you.

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                        Can't game 100% on Linux now all game work well enough and driver issues.

                        If not we wouldn't be on Windows.

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                        SteamOS. In principle anyway.

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                          Always wandering why it isn' t possible for Microsoft to maintain their version and update all along. Linux can do it, Android can do it. I' m not sure about Apple.
                          I switched to Linux years ago and I'm still most satisfied about my choice. My current laptop is from 2009 and can still go on for years. That is what you call sustainability

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                          Sustainable products are not profitable products. Look at what happened to Tupperware.

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                            I will take your windows 10 PC and give you a keychain made of DDR2 RAM in trade.

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                              Sustainable products are not profitable products. Look at what happened to Tupperware.

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                              If there's no IP barrier, the products can come back when the demand is back.

                              Which is one of the reasons I'm against copyright and of course reverse-engineering and modding and emulation being legally suppressed.

                              Say, one can easily understand how 90s' era of good old software and hardware ended. Modern business models there are more profitable. But those models lead to degeneracy, and they wouldn't be competitive if the old things were competitive for longer, and the old things would be if not for copyright. More paths is always better.

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                                I guess that's true. But both are acting everyone just has money to waste.

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                                Well, for people that buy into Apple, there's a higher chance that's the case πŸ˜…

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                                  It's not wise to assume someone is stupid based on ability with technology. This is why Linux fans drive people away and harm adoption.

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                                  In my experience on average the incompetent are also kind of stupid. Is your experience different?

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                                    In my experience on average the incompetent are also kind of stupid. Is your experience different?

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                                    Yikes man, good luck with that.

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                                      I never liked Windows 10, I had way too many issues with it. However, so many companies rely on old versions of Windows and it takes them years to upgrade to the latest version. The machines I use at work still have Windows 10 installed because the software we rely on isn't compatible with Windows 11 yet. This whole "trade in your old PC for a new one" is ridiculous. Thankfully there's many Linux distros that work with older hardware so you don't need Windows!

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                                      When management doesn’t want to upgrade from XP because it still works

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                                        Linux users tell Microsoft to just get over it, dump your parasitic software and start over, because how hard can it be?

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                                        As someone who did exactly this a year and a half or so ago: so much easier than you think.

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                                          No snap by default is on its own a huge difference. Far from window dressing.

                                          If you give a new user snaps, many things will not work as they expect, and that is not a hurdle beginners should have to pass.

                                          Nobody cares about kernel, I don't even know anyone who builds their own (I use Gentoo btw), they either go bleed, or stable, nothing in between.

                                          But package delivery matters a lot.

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                                          It's still the same function at the base level-- to deliver and install/remove, in an easy manor, whatever software package the user wants to use/remove. Whether it's a good system or not, is a separate issue.

                                          Every Ubuntu based distro I've tested allows snaps. The highly touted beginner's distro Linux Mint sure does. Even Fedora can use snaps and Ubuntu can use flatpaks if you want to be that silly. I have tested that both ways and it worked. But it was merely OKish. It's just Ubuntu pushes snaps and Fedora pushes flatpaks. So snaps aren't as insular as you seem to think.

                                          For the user, there isn't much difference between a snap, flatpak, deb, or rpm in use. The basic install or remove experience is meant to be the same, it's supposed to be a carefully curated point and click. Even Gentoo's portage is supposed to be simple for the user. The one other not quite as common, but a bit more universal installation method for users is the appImage package. I use several appImages because that's the only way they are available. And personally, over the nearly 3 decades of fooling with Linux, I've had issues with all of the package management methods. I still have PTSD from being repeatedly caught in rpm hell back in the day or needing to compile from source. (Damn, I'm old)

                                          The longer I use Linux, the more I think that whatever distro you choose, it's more a matter of how you personally vibe with that distro than anything intrinsically better than the rest of them. Just about everything else is window dressing.

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