They're trying to normalize calling vibe coding a "programming paradigm," don't let them.
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Vaush the Stampede
Hehe horsey
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But the product is also redone from the ground up by vibe coding because lessons are impossible to learn and corporate is infallible.
I wouldn't mind some corps vibing themselves into bankruptcy.
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I don't know what vibe coding is, but I'm assuming it's when you relax in your chair, lean back, place your hands on the keyboard and just type. Let the vibes guide your code.
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No love for the 'declarative' programming paradigm? You can actually do some useful work with SQL or Ansible...
Are those Turing complete? (Legit question, I'd love to know)
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I wouldn't mind some corps vibing themselves into bankruptcy.
Mr neither
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I don't know what vibe coding is, but I'm assuming it's when you relax in your chair, lean back, place your hands on the keyboard and just type. Let the vibes guide your code.
Its when you start a new program without any clear intention or goals and just use current emotion to guide you.
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Are those Turing complete? (Legit question, I'd love to know)
There are scripting extensions to SQL that definitely are. There are some features in some SQL servers that make it Turing Complete even without scripting stuff.
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/900055/is-sql-or-even-tsql-turing-complete
Like HTML5+CSS3 being Turning Complete, it's easy to add features that accidentally make you hit the threshold. Many would argue that it's a sign complexity has run away from you, and I tend to agree.
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I wonder if this is how scholars reacted to the printing press
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I don't know what vibe coding is, but I'm assuming it's when you relax in your chair, lean back, place your hands on the keyboard and just type. Let the vibes guide your code.
Vibe coding is when you're not coding, just typing prompts into AI in hopes it will produce a legible code.
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Are those Turing complete? (Legit question, I'd love to know)
Frezik has a good answer for SQL.
In theory, Ansible should be used for creating 'playbooks' listing the packages and configuration files which are present on a server or collection of servers, and then 'playing the playbook' arranges it so that those servers exist and are configured as you specified. You shouldn't really care how that is achieved; it is declarative.
However, in practice it has input, output, loops, conditional branching, and the ability to execute subtasks recursively. (In fact, it can quite difficult to stop people from using those features, since 'declarative' doesn't necessarily come easily to everyone, and it makes for very messy config.) I think those are all the features required for Turing equivalence?
Being able to deploy a whole fleet of servers in a very straightfoward way comes as close to the 'infinite memory' requirement as any programming language can get, although you do need basically infinite money to do that on a cloud service.
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I don't know what vibe coding is, but I'm assuming it's when you relax in your chair, lean back, place your hands on the keyboard and just type. Let the vibes guide your code.
It's when you relax the sphincter of your mind and let the llm gape you with its knowledge.
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Vibe coding is when you're not coding, just typing prompts into AI in hopes it will produce a legible code.
i tried that one time. it was the only time i tried to use AI for something actually useful that i needed. i wanted to write some simple JavaScript that would rapidly flash 3 equally sized images on the screen of a handheld linux machine. the AI provided a list of instructions of software and other prerequisites i would need. after installing everything and entering in the code provided into the software, it immediately started yelling warning signs at me about the code. nothing ran. it was all useless. it felt like talking to a paranoid schizophrenic. the ai was so sure of the code, and insisted that i must be making a mistake, and kept apologizing and providing more useless code. it was literally just like talking to a paranoid schizophrenic at a bus stop, insisting all the crazy shit they're saying REALLY makes sense, if only you'll let them explain it to you further.
what trash.
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No love for the 'declarative' programming paradigm? You can actually do some useful work with SQL or Ansible...
Functional is also declarative because control flow is implicit/unspecified.
What's actually missing is logic programming, of which the likes of SQL are a subset.
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Are those Turing complete? (Legit question, I'd love to know)
Pure SQL, as in relational algebra, is LOGSPACE/PTIME. Datalog is PTIME-complete when the program ("query") is fixed, EXPTIME-hard otherwise.
It's all quite tractable, but there's definitely turing-complete declerative langugages. Not just pretty much every functional language, but also the likes of prolog.
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It's when you relax the sphincter of your mind and let the llm gape you with its knowledge.
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I wonder if this is how scholars reacted to the printing press
wrote on last edited by [email protected]You'd have a point if this was an artist community, but coding AI as it exists does not work that well.
I'd give a better example, but most of the technologies that didn't actually work are lost to history. Hmm, maybe reapeating crossbows and that giant 40-reme boat that the one Greek king built?
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i tried that one time. it was the only time i tried to use AI for something actually useful that i needed. i wanted to write some simple JavaScript that would rapidly flash 3 equally sized images on the screen of a handheld linux machine. the AI provided a list of instructions of software and other prerequisites i would need. after installing everything and entering in the code provided into the software, it immediately started yelling warning signs at me about the code. nothing ran. it was all useless. it felt like talking to a paranoid schizophrenic. the ai was so sure of the code, and insisted that i must be making a mistake, and kept apologizing and providing more useless code. it was literally just like talking to a paranoid schizophrenic at a bus stop, insisting all the crazy shit they're saying REALLY makes sense, if only you'll let them explain it to you further.
what trash.
These AIs really suck at writing correct code but I've had good success in having them write code generators. I recently made it write a script that takes a SQL create table statement and converts in to TS and gives insert update, delete and whatnot and also creates a simple class that handles the operations.
I had to write the original code by hand but having it write code that writes boilerplate which I correct is pretty good.
Other code is hit or miss IMO
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I wonder if this is how scholars reacted to the printing press
the printing press didn't unlawfully steal content and print exabytes of shit-streaked garbage.
the printing press expanded the potential for knowledge to be shared at a higher volume and speed due to the nature of mass printing.
it was more akin to multi-core hyperthreading than AI.
I think what you mean is that AI is like the discovery of distribution of electricity. the story of where a self-educated immigrant attempted to sell his method of distribution that was safer and more pragmatic, was slandered and tormented by a tech oligarch that had no qualms with electrocuting elephants in public. oh and not to mention Thomas Edison didn't even "invent" AC power, he stamped his name on it and falsely claimed he did. sounds like some other tech bro we know today...
this is the problem with you "AI bros", you can't even provide a valid argument because your brain has turned to dog shit from using AI 100% of the time.
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I don't know what vibe coding is, but I'm assuming it's when you relax in your chair, lean back, place your hands on the keyboard and just type. Let the vibes guide your code.
I also don't know what vibe coding is, but my guess is it's coding while high.
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NGL I'm waiting for the first lawsuit where an engineer is sued by a company by vibe coding as they were told and caused irreparable harm to the company as the whole product has to be redone from the ground up.
caused irreparable harm to the company as the whole product has to be redone from the ground up
Lol this is most projects for most companies I've worked for, long before AI came on the scene. Somehow these multi-year multi-million dollar disasters were never fatal.
