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  • A [email protected]

    I’m constantly on the lookout for European alternatives. Are there any EU alternatives to Amazon?

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    Isn't Kobo made by rakuten? And Rakuten mainly operates in Germany? Also, hell get an e-reader with android on it and you can run all kinds of books on it without limiting yourself to just one company. There is even a Linux e-reader called pine note that you can buy.

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    • bilb@lem.monsterB [email protected]

      That's not unlike the experience on my Kobo Elipsa 2e.

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      How is that Elipsa e2? I wanted to get it, but I discovered that it had a low PPI 227 and held off. I have eagle eyes and I hate seeing pixels. lol.. so I got the sage fantastic device, but I want the 10" screen so badly.

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      • C [email protected]

        Mr Stallman needs to be considered from all sides before deciding whether you'll follow his lead. He's not without some toejam.

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        Not sure what that means. He’s not Jesus. There’s no need to worship him! We can take the good and criticize the bad.

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          But lets see the Positive side: Now the Nazis wont have to burn thousands of books, saving tons of co2 in their Plan to take over the world with propaganda. So, yay for the envoirment I guess

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          Soon:

          "Protestors who were planning to publish video evidence of police brutality find the videos mysteriously vanished from their phone"

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          • gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zoneG [email protected]

            Hell, I'm surprised the publishers aren't up in arms about it.

            Amazon is changing copyrighted works.

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            Increasingly more often Amazon is the publisher.

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            • finishingdutch@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

              Piracy was, is and remains a service problem, as Gabe Newell of Valve (Steam) once stated. Most people are perfectly content to pay a reasonable price to get access to the things they want. But if you make that impossible, they’ll find other options.

              Take anime for example: even if you subscribed to every streaming service out there, you still wouldn’t be able to see everything you wanted. Some things aren’t streamable or sold ANYWHERE, or only on a service that’s actively blocked in your region. Which means there is simply no legal way for you at all to get that content.

              Music on the other hand solved that dilemma. You can use Spotify, YT Music, Apple Music or a host of other options. You pay a flat fee and you can listen to pretty much every song you want, as often as you want. Nobody’s pirating MP3’s these days, because nobody needs to. It’s now more convenient to just stream it.

              I’d really like to see someone do the same for books. An unlimited digital library that lets you download anything you want for a flat subscription fee. I’d pay 10 bucks a month for that for sure. Because that would make it more convenient than pirating is right now, with a more consistent experience.

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              ever heard of zlibrary?

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              • E [email protected]

                Music is definitely not a solved problem. About 30% of my favorite older tunes aren't available on streaming at all, as I discovered when I tried to find a way to casually share with some friends.

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                Sure, no platform will have everything. But for me personally, on YouTube Music, I’ve always been able to find what I was looking for. But I’m admittedly not what you’d call a music aficionado.

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                  ever heard of zlibrary?

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                  I am aware of them, yes. It’s not the book download site that I use personally, but you can never have enough options.

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                  • finishingdutch@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

                    I am aware of them, yes. It’s not the book download site that I use personally, but you can never have enough options.

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                    which do you use?

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                    • finishingdutch@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

                      I just buy physicals of the reference books I really want and pirate the digitals of anything else that isn’t sold DRM-free. I WILL own what I bought, whether they like it or not.

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                      I wish I could do the same. I prefer paper books, we have a massive library and mostly read in our language on paper (except uni textbooks, I wouldn't want to buy them and the library doesn't have enough). However, that stopped being feasible when most of my non-fiction reading switched to English. Since English books are mostly not sold locally, I would have gone bankrupt on delivery costs alone. So thanks Libgen for my education.

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                      • finishingdutch@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

                        Sure, no platform will have everything. But for me personally, on YouTube Music, I’ve always been able to find what I was looking for. But I’m admittedly not what you’d call a music aficionado.

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                        Interestingly, I am now going through some album series that are not on Youtube, but are on Spotify. It is frustrating because I can't use Spotify on my phone (browser is incompatible), but I can Youtube, so music discovery is desktop-only. Good thing all of them are on Soulseek, though.

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                        • penquin@lemm.eeP [email protected]

                          How is that Elipsa e2? I wanted to get it, but I discovered that it had a low PPI 227 and held off. I have eagle eyes and I hate seeing pixels. lol.. so I got the sage fantastic device, but I want the 10" screen so badly.

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                          I have not been at all dissatisfied with its clarity. I bet on a LCD or OLED screen the DPI would be noticeable, but not on an e-ink display.

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                            which do you use?

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                            I usually use Anna’s Archive or Lib Gen, depending on what’s actually up and working. Anna scrapes Zlib as well as other sources. Usually that’s where I can find the really obscure stuff.

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                              But lets see the Positive side: Now the Nazis wont have to burn thousands of books, saving tons of co2 in their Plan to take over the world with propaganda. So, yay for the envoirment I guess

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                              Honest question, how is this different from the left doing the same? Take this for example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roald_Dahl_revision_controversy

                              As an outsider, it seems the USA is currently in a culture war, and neither side minds burning & changing the books they deem offensive?

                              I'm all for the Trump hate, what's happening there is insane, but the American left wing being bothered by books being changed seems pretty hypocritical seeing recent events....

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                                Honest question, how is this different from the left doing the same? Take this for example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roald_Dahl_revision_controversy

                                As an outsider, it seems the USA is currently in a culture war, and neither side minds burning & changing the books they deem offensive?

                                I'm all for the Trump hate, what's happening there is insane, but the American left wing being bothered by books being changed seems pretty hypocritical seeing recent events....

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                                The controversy you pointed out is about someone who was writing factually false information and feeding hate against people who should be covered under the freedom of speech. The ban happened during his life, and not years after he died. Therefore his works were not a peace of gone culture, but hate in the present of time.

                                If I follow your argumentation, that being that you should allow people write false information feeding hate against specific people just living their life in peace, you should be against censoring Hate speech against Lgbtqia+ people too, or the better question would be: where do you draw the line? At Jews? At queer people?

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                                  The controversy you pointed out is about someone who was writing factually false information and feeding hate against people who should be covered under the freedom of speech. The ban happened during his life, and not years after he died. Therefore his works were not a peace of gone culture, but hate in the present of time.

                                  If I follow your argumentation, that being that you should allow people write false information feeding hate against specific people just living their life in peace, you should be against censoring Hate speech against Lgbtqia+ people too, or the better question would be: where do you draw the line? At Jews? At queer people?

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                                  I have honestly no clue what you're trying to say???

                                  If you read the wiki page i linked, it's about changing his books after his death, so not things about when he was still alive? Is also not about a ban? Did you even read the wiki? It literally starts with "Puffin Books, the children's imprint of the British publisher Penguin Books, expurgated various works by British author Roald Dahl in 2023, sparking controversy. "

                                  And you're talking about hate against races, but the wiki talks about removing the word queer (which used to just be a synonym for strange), removing all kinds of gendered language (not sons & daughters, but children, etc....). So rewriting the books to fit your narrative.

                                  My argumentation is simple: the right wing can't change books, but the leftwing can? Both sides seem to be trying to rewrite history, that's all. Whether what's in the books is acceptable or not, who cares. If the book is no longer appropriate, don't read it but complaining about the other side rewriting books seems hypocritical. That's all. You can just not recommend books to readers and suggest more modern alternatives that are more appropriate, or read the old works taking in mind the era they were written in.

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                                    I have honestly no clue what you're trying to say???

                                    If you read the wiki page i linked, it's about changing his books after his death, so not things about when he was still alive? Is also not about a ban? Did you even read the wiki? It literally starts with "Puffin Books, the children's imprint of the British publisher Penguin Books, expurgated various works by British author Roald Dahl in 2023, sparking controversy. "

                                    And you're talking about hate against races, but the wiki talks about removing the word queer (which used to just be a synonym for strange), removing all kinds of gendered language (not sons & daughters, but children, etc....). So rewriting the books to fit your narrative.

                                    My argumentation is simple: the right wing can't change books, but the leftwing can? Both sides seem to be trying to rewrite history, that's all. Whether what's in the books is acceptable or not, who cares. If the book is no longer appropriate, don't read it but complaining about the other side rewriting books seems hypocritical. That's all. You can just not recommend books to readers and suggest more modern alternatives that are more appropriate, or read the old works taking in mind the era they were written in.

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                                    didn't know JK Rowling is into Lemmy now

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                                      didn't know JK Rowling is into Lemmy now

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                                      Ah yeah, going for the insult rather than engaging with a difficult talking point...

                                      I for sure hate trans people when i say it's hypocritical to complain about the right wing changing books to fit what they view as correct, when the left wing is doing the exact same (strange... my point isn't even about trans people it seems... how peculiar).

                                      I haven't even said that i have a problem with more gender neutral language, i just gave it as en example of what it's about since the parent post was all about hate speech, (and there was some issue with that too in his childrens books, but afaik hardly any).

                                      And i focused on that because OP made it sound as if just hate speech was being targetted, not rewriting old works to fit very left wing desires about how gender is mentioned.

                                      But the question remains: if the right does it, it's Nazism, when the left does it, it's.... <?????> (at least totally not Nazism, because when we do something that we claim is blatant Nazism when the others do it, it's ok, because obviously, we're not Nazis, even when we do things that we call out as blatantly Nazism when others do it).

                                      (and why am i trying to call this out: because i hate hypocrisy & polarization. It's fair to disagree with that, but then calling it Nazism and being all wronged about it while the American left wing is doing the exact same, and then get's called out the exact same by de maga idiots... That's just stupid on both sides, and i'd prefer our side to be genuine and honest, and not be all offended when others do the same thing they're doing)

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                                        But lets see the Positive side: Now the Nazis wont have to burn thousands of books, saving tons of co2 in their Plan to take over the world with propaganda. So, yay for the envoirment I guess

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                                        13+ years ago when I'd say why I hate social media, cloud services, all this convenient dependence, everybody would act as if this was stupid.

                                        My logic was that if there's a mechanism allowing such influence, no matter how small, its power will grow almost until the death of such an ecosystem. Because the returns of abusing it will always be more than the expenses.

                                        I don't like this Cassandra feeling really.

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                                          Soon:

                                          "Protestors who were planning to publish video evidence of police brutality find the videos mysteriously vanished from their phone"

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                                          In some Star Wars book, of the period between PT and OT, there was a similar moment, but I don't remember details. Context - it's described as some slow transition, while the Republic of the Clone Wars had military censorship and many freedoms curbed, after the war supposedly ended and the Empire proclaimed, it legally and procedurally was mostly the same and the military limitations were in part lifted. So there were protests and attempts to use legal mechanisms, with such funny events.

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