I feel so relieved!
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You’re actually right - I do spend way too much time with this.
And yes, I kinda got lost in finally having some valve open to let out my built up pressure, sorry it was you.
Understood. None of us are immune to it; the internet really doesn't bring out the best in us.
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Where should the Israel Jews go now though?
Same place the Germans went after the holocaust ended. Same place the white South Africans went after their apartheid ended.
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They’ve made the strategic moves
Aka threatening the planet with a nuclear holocaust.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option
all major terrorist factions are virtually eliminated
No. The zio regime is still fully in control of large areas of palestine. Not to mention wider imperial terrorism.
Yes nuclear powers ensure their security by threatening to use nukes this is known and not some big revelation. Its why they are so reluctant to let others join that club.
The conversation is about Isreal. I am obviously talking from the perspective of isreal who do not considers themselves a terrorist threat.
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Israel is currently sliding away from this
It's not. It's the very conception of the state of Israel. It was funded through the Naqba, a forcible relocation of hundreds of thousands of Palestinians. The very idea of the modern state of Israel is genocidal and an apartheid ethnostate
would you also claim the same for the United States? Their original sin is even darker, as most natives did not move away but simply died.
Iriginal sin is not necessarily destiny.
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Nope it was always the capitalist class.
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Same place the Germans went after the holocaust ended. Same place the white South Africans went after their apartheid ended.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Most surviving German Jews went to the Levant (bear in mind that ⅔ were killed by Nazis).
White South Africans didn't experience genocide.
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There's a genocide like in ww2, but it doesn't threaten capital so every state supports it.
What are you getting at? Ww2 wasn't started over a genocide.
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Most surviving German Jews went to the Levant (bear in mind that ⅔ were killed by Nazis).
White South Africans didn't experience genocide.
Isreal is committing a genocide right now, and has been maintaining an apartheid state for decades. In this analogy, they're the white South Africans. They're the nazis.
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Isreal is committing a genocide right now, and has been maintaining an apartheid state for decades. In this analogy, they're the white South Africans. They're the nazis.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Black South African leadership did not express a desire to kill all whites. Hamas have expressed a desire to kill all Jews in the Levant so the analogy does not hold.
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Isreal is committing a genocide right now, and has been maintaining an apartheid state for decades. In this analogy, they're the white South Africans. They're the nazis.
Whether or not Israel has a right to exist, it is a childish fantasy to imagine it will vanish.
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would you also claim the same for the United States? Their original sin is even darker, as most natives did not move away but simply died.
Iriginal sin is not necessarily destiny.
Hitler famously inspired his Lebensraum theory in the US example and the Manifest Destiny doctrine. The US successfully genocided almost the entirety of native Americans. So yes, I would make a similar claim for the USA
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Fuck Iran. Their government is way worse than Israel's. Do I need to remind everyone that they're feeding Russia with the drones that they use to attack civilians in Ukraine?
Here's hoping that Iran's next revolution won't end up in a total disaster like the previous one did.
Their government is way worse than Israel’s.
You can just come out and say you don't think non-white people are human.
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equate Gaza and Ukraine with
Huh? Gaza and Ukraine are completely different conflicts. Ukraine is a military invasion, Gaza is a genocide.
No, not according to the current definition
Can you post the current definition? I'm happy to argue about that, because i do maintain that it's a genocide in the case of Gaza because there's a manifest intent to eliminate an entire people, unlike the case of Ukraine.
The current definition of Genocide is set out in Article II of the Genocide
Convention:Genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in
whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated
to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.To constitute genocide, it also needs to be established that the victims are deliberately targeted — not randomly — because of their real or perceived membership of one of the four groups protected under the Convention. This means that the target of destruction must be
the group, as such, or even a part of it, but not its members as individuals.https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/documents/Genocide Convention-FactSheet-ENG.pdf
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equate Gaza and Ukraine with
Huh? Gaza and Ukraine are completely different conflicts. Ukraine is a military invasion, Gaza is a genocide.
No, not according to the current definition
Can you post the current definition? I'm happy to argue about that, because i do maintain that it's a genocide in the case of Gaza because there's a manifest intent to eliminate an entire people, unlike the case of Ukraine.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Gaza and Ukraine are completely different conflicts.
Am just passing on what Ireland is doing.
Ireland will not be asserting if genocide is being committed, but asserting its interpretation of the Genocide Convention.
This is the same approach taken by Ireland in the Ukraine v Russia case.
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The current definition of Genocide is set out in Article II of the Genocide
Convention:Genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in
whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated
to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.To constitute genocide, it also needs to be established that the victims are deliberately targeted — not randomly — because of their real or perceived membership of one of the four groups protected under the Convention. This means that the target of destruction must be
the group, as such, or even a part of it, but not its members as individuals.https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/documents/Genocide Convention-FactSheet-ENG.pdf
By those exact metrics, I consider myself capable of judging that Israel is committing a genocide against Palestinians, and that Russia is committing war but not genocide in Ukraine.
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Even if they could, they wouldn't get the resources as cheaply as theyre getting them now. Also China has recall elections, if Xi went mad and unilaterally decided to go to war with a country so important to Chinas economy, he'd be booted so fast.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Ehhhh, you're only describing the other side of the calculation that we both know Xi is making. The moment that calculation shows invading Russia/India would maybe work, he'd probably go for it.
If the US removed itself from the global stage, I'd suspect Xi would focus more on the Pacific and Thaiwan, but if the calculations show he could own Russia/India too? Yeeaaaaa he's not passing that up.
Also, we all should know how China's votes go after Hong Kong... China is a dictatorship that calls itself communist. Nothing more.
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I'd find Germany less responsible for WWIII if maybe they ya know didn't support a genocidal terrorist ethnostate at the expense of domestically suppressing speech calling out that foreign policy, but I guess it just be like that sometimes
It's very mean of Germany that foreigners who trash University property and threaten their staff violently face deportation.
How can they do such a suppression of free speech?
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It's very mean of Germany that foreigners who trash University property and threaten their staff violently face deportation.
How can they do such a suppression of free speech?
foreigners who trash University property and threaten their staff violently face deportation
What are you referring to here?
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foreigners who trash University property and threaten their staff violently face deportation
What are you referring to here?
About the handful "poor and innocent protestors" which the Berlin government tried to deport for taking part in a violent occupation of the Berlin Free University, which then tried to claim this was a retaliation for "simple demonstrating against Israel."
Here are some pictures of the damages caused inside the university
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About the handful "poor and innocent protestors" which the Berlin government tried to deport for taking part in a violent occupation of the Berlin Free University, which then tried to claim this was a retaliation for "simple demonstrating against Israel."
Here are some pictures of the damages caused inside the university
Awesome. And it worked because it got the media to focus on the genocide even if it took further escalation and even if it was negative press. This is an entirely righteous and historically common way to raise attention that hey our government and university is complicit in the murder of 10s of thousands of kids and civilians. This is no different than the white rose resistance. Good for these students. They are heros who are risking their education, rights, and careers to give a voice to those who may not have one.
