Multiple Teslas set on fire in Germany
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All cars are required to have insurance in most European countries, Germany included. Not sure if collateral damage by vandalism is covered by default, but most of the time you are covered against any damage that you yourself didn't cause, so I assume it is covered.
I can't speak for Germany but my car insurance wouldn't cover arson. It only covers liability, so if I cause damage or personal injury with my vehicle then my insurance kicks in and covers the other person's damages. If I wreck my car in a single vehicle collision, a tree falls on it, or someone who doesn't have insurance hits me then I get nothing. That is collision and/or comprehensive insurance that cover those situations respectively.
However I know that if I were to lease a vehicle, I would need to get comprehensive insurance as part of the lease agreement. These were probably leased so their insurance might cover it, definitely not all of those Tesla owners though.
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It’s not because we value the wrong thing. It’s because of basic laws that protect us all.
How could they be reclaimed? They are owned by somebody who legally owns them. Unless the owner is found guilty of something that entitles the government to take possession then there’s no legal way to do that.
If someone is going to reclaim it illegally they’re also not going to use that money to help people. You don’t get many Robin Hoods so the criminals that do it are most likely to keep the proceeds for themselves.
It’s because of basic laws that protect us all.
The fuck? It's illegal to burn these cars too, smart person.
Taken from other comment debunking you people:
You can steal the vehicle too. You can discuss and support policies that take the assets of the ruling class by force.
Sad this needs to be spelled out for you people, but I don’t expect more at this point.
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I like your how nonsensical trying to connect unrelated things together, did you forget your meds. How do you propose to acquire something owned by some else that doesn't belong to you
There's nothing unrelated about this.
You people just succumbed to your herd mentality and there is no force in the universe that can overcome it.
Really puts things into perspective for anyone with a brain. I can tell the next generation is taking hold, and it isn't pretty.
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Not everybody has insurance that covers vandalism.
Tesla owners should upgrade quickly.
Most people have a deductible they need to pay before the insurance kick in.
True. However the main financial impact on current Tesla owners is the falling 2nd hand market price. Current owners are already losing out. Nothing can be done about that.
You are forcing people to take time out of their day to take the car to the shop for repairs and/or have to deal with long administrative tasks.
So sell the Telsa if that is a worry.
Premiums would not only go up for future Tesla owners.
If only Teslas are vandalised then only that brands premiums are affected.
Maybe one day you will be on the receiving end of such despicable attacks on private citizens and only then you might change your mind.
You do not get to dictate what cars people get to buy, nor what kind of insurance they must have. That is not how insurance works, premiums will go up for everyone.
Besides, you tell people to sell their cars, while you acknowledge the big financial hit that would involve; who are they going to sell it to? Whoever buys it will also suffer from the vandalism you encourage.
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the magamobile… i know it has its issues, but the sad thing is, if you want an electric car as a person who does not care about car-people-things, the magamobile is one of the best options in terms of efficiency. ALSO in terms of used vehicles, you can get teslas so bloody cheap rn and for people who just want to get from A to B with Comfort and ease, you dont have so many other options.
At some point you have to draw a line, and the car sold by the guy who’s directly helping to destroy the US, helping the AFD in Germany get more power, and cutting aid to so many other countries which will lead to millions of deaths is a pretty fucking easy line to draw. Besides, as the saying goes, “electric cars aren’t here to save the planet, they’re here to save cars” so take public transit and fight for it if you don’t have it(also this is in Germany and Europe generally has more options than the backwater that is the US).
There are plenty of other options that aren’t so boldly rotten as Tesla, too. People not wanting even the slightest inconvenience is how we get into these messes and it’s time to buck up and deal with it.
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You know people can attack Tesla’s future income stream simply by not buying a Tesla.
And you can attack it even more by dissuading other people too.
There’s no need to destroy random citizens private property
There is a need if faster results are sought.
and we already established they are not made whole by insurance.
Then sell before it's vandalised.
is naive to think insurance prices will only rise for future Tesla owners.
This is how insurance works. Brands, models and even colors have different premiums.
If I disagree with something you do, that does not justify me destroying your private property.
It's not about the Tesla owner directly. It's about damaging Musk.
I should state that I am not going to damage anyone's private property, but current and future Tesla owners should be aware of the logic behind the attacks and act appropriately.
Maybe one day you will be on the receiving end of such despicable attacks on private citizens and only then you might change your mind.
You do not get to dictate what cars people get to buy, nor what kind of insurance they must have. That is not how insurance works, premiums will go up for everyone.
Besides, you tell people to sell their cars, while you acknowledge the big financial hit that would involve; who are they going to sell it to? Whoever buys it will also suffer from the vandalism you encourage.
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Yeah ICE cars catch fire 61x more often than EVs.
Facts are important. We want people to switch to EVs. Spreading falsehoods because it helps your own side short term is wrong.
ICE cars are filled with gasoline and function by blowing it up, the risk is clear. EVs should not be catching fire.
Also yea, I want people to use public transportation, actually. And I want villages to return, not these horrendous sprawling “small towns” where, despite having less stuff than my Montréal neighbourhood, it’s a huge pain to get anywhere and you need a car at least simply because too many jobs that could be remote aren’t.
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So many people on social media cheering for vandalizing other people’s private property just because they disagree with the politics of the maker of their cars. Wild.
“Just because they disagree with the politics” look we can say what we want about the burning Teslas part this isn’t a “little disagreement”. Musk’s a full-blown turbo-Nazi and in and in Germany, where this happened, he’s pouring money into the AFD which is essentially just the return of a German Nazi party. Don’t water it down.
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Maybe one day you will be on the receiving end of such despicable attacks on private citizens and only then you might change your mind.
You do not get to dictate what cars people get to buy, nor what kind of insurance they must have. That is not how insurance works, premiums will go up for everyone.
Besides, you tell people to sell their cars, while you acknowledge the big financial hit that would involve; who are they going to sell it to? Whoever buys it will also suffer from the vandalism you encourage.
Maybe one day you will be on the receiving end of such despicable attacks on private citizens and only then you might change your mind.
Maybe I've already sold my Tesla and I'm no longer supporting Musk in any shape or form. I might be changing the mind of a Tesla owner currently reading this.
You do not get to dictate what cars people get to buy, nor what kind of insurance they must have.
Agreed. You are free to choose your own car along with it's associated running costs.
That is not how insurance works, premiums will go up for everyone.
It is how insurance works. If causes of risks can be directly identified and measured then they can be directly priced. Any insurer not doing so will lose business.
who are they going to sell it to?
They will have to drop the price until they find a buyer. That will affect new car sales and damage Musk further. See how this works?
Whoever buys it will also suffer from the vandalism you encourage.
Yep. For a low enough price, people may be willing to take the vandalism risk and also become a social pariah.
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“Just because they disagree with the politics” look we can say what we want about the burning Teslas part this isn’t a “little disagreement”. Musk’s a full-blown turbo-Nazi and in and in Germany, where this happened, he’s pouring money into the AFD which is essentially just the return of a German Nazi party. Don’t water it down.
That is politics. Are you suggesting it is acceptable to destroy private property that belongs to the members of the AFD?
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Maybe one day you will be on the receiving end of such despicable attacks on private citizens and only then you might change your mind.
Maybe I've already sold my Tesla and I'm no longer supporting Musk in any shape or form. I might be changing the mind of a Tesla owner currently reading this.
You do not get to dictate what cars people get to buy, nor what kind of insurance they must have.
Agreed. You are free to choose your own car along with it's associated running costs.
That is not how insurance works, premiums will go up for everyone.
It is how insurance works. If causes of risks can be directly identified and measured then they can be directly priced. Any insurer not doing so will lose business.
who are they going to sell it to?
They will have to drop the price until they find a buyer. That will affect new car sales and damage Musk further. See how this works?
Whoever buys it will also suffer from the vandalism you encourage.
Yep. For a low enough price, people may be willing to take the vandalism risk and also become a social pariah.
Again, maybe one days you will be on the receiving end of such despicable attacks on private citizens, and only then you might change your mind. It doesn’t need to be about Tesla. It doesn’t even need to be about something you agree with.
Insurance prices will rise across the board, maybe more for Tesla, but also for other brands. That is just how insurance works.
You can impact new car sales simply by encouraging people to not buy a new Tesla. You don’t need to destroy people’s private property to accomplish that goal.
You are condoning terrorism. Do better.
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ICE cars are filled with gasoline and function by blowing it up, the risk is clear. EVs should not be catching fire.
Also yea, I want people to use public transportation, actually. And I want villages to return, not these horrendous sprawling “small towns” where, despite having less stuff than my Montréal neighbourhood, it’s a huge pain to get anywhere and you need a car at least simply because too many jobs that could be remote aren’t.
just to clarify I'm not talking about "EVs". I'm talking about teslas. they're famously prone to catching fire.
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All cars are required to have insurance in most European countries, Germany included. Not sure if collateral damage by vandalism is covered by default, but most of the time you are covered against any damage that you yourself didn't cause, so I assume it is covered.
Required insurance doesnt cover thing like that tho. It covers your liability not your car from the elements. For that you need at least partial coverage which tbh most people with Teslas probably have.
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I hear Aquaman is buying em
Is this a Ben Shapiro reference?
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Again, maybe one days you will be on the receiving end of such despicable attacks on private citizens, and only then you might change your mind. It doesn’t need to be about Tesla. It doesn’t even need to be about something you agree with.
Insurance prices will rise across the board, maybe more for Tesla, but also for other brands. That is just how insurance works.
You can impact new car sales simply by encouraging people to not buy a new Tesla. You don’t need to destroy people’s private property to accomplish that goal.
You are condoning terrorism. Do better.
Again, maybe one days you will be on the receiving end of such despicable attacks on private citizens,
Only if I buy a Tesla.
Insurance prices will rise across the board
Nope. This vandalism risk is only related to Tesla.
also for other brands.
Why? They are not being vandalised, have no change in risk so have no premium adjustment.
That is just how insurance works.
You obviously have no idea how insurance works.
You can impact new car sales simply by encouraging people to not buy a new Tesla.
Agreed.
You don’t need to destroy people’s private property to accomplish that goal.
Vandalism accomplishes the goal faster and more aggressively
You are condoning terrorism. Do better.
I'm condoning nothing. I will even explicitly say Don't Vandalise Cars. Happy?
What I am doing is explaining how Musk is affected if people continue to vandalise Teslas.
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Maybe one day you will be on the receiving end of such despicable attacks on private citizens and only then you might change your mind.
You do not get to dictate what cars people get to buy, nor what kind of insurance they must have. That is not how insurance works, premiums will go up for everyone.
Besides, you tell people to sell their cars, while you acknowledge the big financial hit that would involve; who are they going to sell it to? Whoever buys it will also suffer from the vandalism you encourage.
Tesla owners are people who could afford luxury cars, and NEW Tesla owners are people who are fine with Nazis, that is, exterminating a fuckton of helpless people. The first category, I'm sorry for but they can afford the insurance and if they were stupid enough not to get one, even now when it's obvious that they need it, it's their loss. The second category we are at war with, and if it ever goes full blown, idk if somebody told you how wars work, but I'll be killing them. Setting their car on fire is pretty tame compared to that.
Do people think wars consist of the parties sending strongly worded letters at each other?
Edit: and toppling a billionaire to prevent a full blown war that will kill a few million people worldwide is worth ANYTHING short of killing a few million people worldwide.
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Again, maybe one days you will be on the receiving end of such despicable attacks on private citizens,
Only if I buy a Tesla.
Insurance prices will rise across the board
Nope. This vandalism risk is only related to Tesla.
also for other brands.
Why? They are not being vandalised, have no change in risk so have no premium adjustment.
That is just how insurance works.
You obviously have no idea how insurance works.
You can impact new car sales simply by encouraging people to not buy a new Tesla.
Agreed.
You don’t need to destroy people’s private property to accomplish that goal.
Vandalism accomplishes the goal faster and more aggressively
You are condoning terrorism. Do better.
I'm condoning nothing. I will even explicitly say Don't Vandalise Cars. Happy?
What I am doing is explaining how Musk is affected if people continue to vandalise Teslas.
Only if I buy a Tesla.
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
Yes, you are the villain here.
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That is politics. Are you suggesting it is acceptable to destroy private property that belongs to the members of the AFD?
A thousand times yes lol. Surprised you're on ml instead of world with this kind of take.
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The time for petitions and lobbying have passed. Our regulatory agencies have been captured and our politicians bought.
In the future it'll only get more and more dangerous to associate with Teslas at all. Anyone who values their personal safety should unload it now.
I will be reporting anyone I catch destroying otherwise innocent people's property to the authorities. I will not be associated with you fucking animals.
